Aviator quit at 70mph w/Stop Safely Now & Full Accessory Power

I am not familiar with the criteria, but shouldn't there have been an almost immediate recall on this?
There was a recall for the vehicles that Ford said could have been affected. I'm not sure if you have looked at the Oasis report for my vehicle, it's posted above, but these Aviators have a hell of a lot more issues than just "stop safely now" and "full accessory power". There's a Detroit Free Press article describing some of the other issues owners experienced. I'm not trying to bash Ford/Lincoln here. I own a 22 F350 King Ranch. It's absolutely loaded and the sticker showed it, so I gave Ford a small fortune in monies this year. The plug-in Aviator is probably one, if not, the most sophisticated vehicles Ford produces and it clearly is not ready for primetime. My wife absolutely loves the look of Aviators and all of the technology hers had. It would flat out run when you got on it. The options it had vs what her 22 Lexus Gx460, has now, aren't even close. And her GX is loaded to gills with every option available. Japan clearly doesn't think their vehicles are ready for all the new technology that Ford packs into their vehicle's. We learned the hard way that just because you buy the top-of-line model, doesn't mean it is safe for the road. She still misses it today and has said it was her favorite car ever, minus whole quitting on the interstate stuff.

When I signed my Aviator over to Ford, the dealership that took it said something like 10-12 of the last 20 Aviator's they have sold have been bought back. Unfortunately, they appear to be train wrecks waiting to happen. Don't quote me on those numbers but the GM was pretty forthcoming about it and the Aviator is by far the vehicle with the most buy backs right now.

I sincerely hope Ford gets a handle on these issues that everyone is experiencing. The amount of stress my family went through was unimaginable. And Ford's lack of compassion made it 10x worse. I don't wish our experiences on anyone. Someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed here. I got really very lucky that my elected officials in Washington showed interest and helped a little guy. I'm just some guy that barely votes and hates everything about politics and politicians. If it wasn't for them, I would be devoting the next year of my life, to a lawsuit against Ford. They helped me, immensely, by sending letters to Ford. This was a Democrat and 2 Republicans. They finally found something that they had bi-partisan support for! lol

Alex
 
There was a recall for the vehicles that Ford said could have been affected. I'm not sure if you have looked at the Oasis report for my vehicle, it's posted above, but these Aviators have a hell of a lot more issues than just "stop safely now" and "full accessory power". There's a Detroit Free Press article describing some of the other issues owners experienced. I'm not trying to bash Ford/Lincoln here. I own a 22 F350 King Ranch. It's absolutely loaded and the sticker showed it, so I gave Ford a small fortune in monies this year. The plug-in Aviator is probably one, if not, the most sophisticated vehicles Ford produces and it clearly is not ready for primetime. My wife absolutely loves the look of Aviators and all of the technology hers had. It would flat out run when you got on it. The options it had vs what her 22 Lexus Gx460, has now, aren't even close. And her GX is loaded to gills with every option available. Japan clearly doesn't think their vehicles are ready for all the new technology that Ford packs into their vehicle's. We learned the hard way that just because you buy the top-of-line model, doesn't mean it is safe for the road. She still misses it today and has said it was her favorite car ever, minus whole quitting on the interstate stuff.

When I signed my Aviator over to Ford, the dealership that took it said something like 10-12 of the last 20 Aviator's they have sold have been bought back. Unfortunately, they appear to be train wrecks waiting to happen. Don't quote me on those numbers but the GM was pretty forthcoming about it and the Aviator is by far the vehicle with the most buy backs right now.

I sincerely hope Ford gets a handle on these issues that everyone is experiencing. The amount of stress my family went through was unimaginable. And Ford's lack of compassion made it 10x worse. I don't wish our experiences on anyone. Someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed here. I got really very lucky that my elected officials in Washington showed interest and helped a little guy. I'm just some guy that barely votes and hates everything about politics and politicians. If it wasn't for them, I would be devoting the next year of my life, to a lawsuit against Ford. They helped me, immensely, by sending letters to Ford. This was a Democrat and 2 Republicans. They finally found something that they had bi-partisan support for! lol

Alex
Sorry you had to go through hell. I agree with all you said regarding fords new technology not being ready for use. I have a garbage 2021 F150 Plat., and no desire to order a 2023 in hopes of getting a better one. Wife ordered a 2023 Aviator Reserve, but not the GT option, which makes me feel somewhat better about the order, but all in all, I'm having major issues trusting Ford/Lincoln products. My dealer is good though.
 
I am not familiar with the criteria, but shouldn't there have been an almost immediate recall on this?
See posts 42 and 53 reference the recall.

Peter
 
My wife has 2022 Aviator GT with 3,000 miles on. I bought it on 12/22 in Alabama. I drove it to KY the first day I had it. On the drive the battery never charged. Read 0 miles electric the whole drive, which I find odd.

The first time my wife got in the car she got the “full accessory power message” with a No-start, 545 miles on dash. No other messages. The car wouldn’t go into gear. It said it detected a fault in hybrid battery system. After 30mins the car started up without issue with no codes. (We googled the message and found another Ford forum that said let the car sit)

Local dealership took 3 weeks to get it in the shop. They said nothing was wrong and everything was up to date. Even though the vehicle said it detected a problem with the hybrid system. Week of Feb 1st.

Last Wednesday, while driving 70mph on the interstate the car turned off. Wife said if felt like someone turned the ignition off. Gas pedal was dead and she had to coast to a stop. The car popped up “Stop Safely Now” and “full accessory power” and would not restart. She waited 30mins again, like before, and still nothing. She tried the start button to no avail, tried to remote start it with the key (nothing). Car restarted with the phone as key app though. No messages showed after finally restarting.

Took the car back to Lincoln and they said they can’t find anything. They’ve had it a week and put 100 miles on it. The service manager took it home over the weekend as well.

I have filed complaints with the NHTSA and Lincoln.

Anybody else dealing with these issues and does anybody have a fix for it. This thing is a death trap.

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Hello, I have exact same issue last night on a highway my 2022 aviator GT, stopped working with “Stop Safely Now” and “full accessory power” messages… it started a 10mins later, but didn’t move more than 100ft. Struck on highway blocking the traffic. Now I am dealing with the Lincoln service department 😔
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Was yours in the recall and you didn't take it in?
 
Was yours in the recall and you didn't take it in?
I got my Aviator GT delivered end of May-2022.. Sometime in June-2022 I had a sensors issue popped up on my dashboard and took the vehicle to the dealer. they inspected and told me, they will order the sensors and get it fixed. Suddenly yesterday evening it struck on a highway and stopped working completely. I don't have any recall alerts in the Lincoln mobile app and carfax report too. Assuming it build after the recall. But this issue seems to be persist on many aviator GT. I am worried too much about it now. any of your pointers would be helpful. Thanks
 
Selvan, assume you had to have your vehicle towed? You mentioned ordering sensors . . . . . . if they were ordering sensors for the first issue, did they said it was okay to drive? Wonder if the two are related or separate issues.
 
Selvan, assume you had to have your vehicle towed? You mentioned ordering sensors . . . . . . if they were ordering sensors for the first issue, did they said it was okay to drive? Wonder if the two are related or separate issues.
after the inspection, the service team told me it will take weeks to get the sensor order and receive it. It is safe to drive although auto break, hill state assist will not work due to the sensor failure. I managed to drive with out those assistance. I am still following up with them on that service request. another big issue popped up :-(
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after the inspection, the service team told me it will take weeks to get the sensor order and receive it. It is safe to drive although auto break, hill state assist will not work due to the sensor failure. I managed to drive with out those assistance. I am still following up with them on that service request. another big issue popped up :-(
Welcome to the Forum. 👋

Sorry to hear about your experience. If yours was part of the recall, you would have received a letter by now. Mailing went out April 18th.

Peter
 
Ford said they fixed all those cars. They claimed is was a select few vehicles. That a technician, from a subcontractor, wasn't certified to build the parts. Doesn't add up, Hmmmmm.
 
This just happened to my wife, alert came on while driving, but thankfully power didn't cut off until she got to destination and had parked. When she got back in, it would not start up, only the Full Accessory Power notification. Remote start with FOB or phone did not work as it had with other folks. Just over 2k miles, took delivery mid May. Sitting at the dealership now waiting for an update.

If any other folks who had this issue are still checking this forum and this thread, what was the resolution?
 
This just happened to my wife, alert came on while driving, but thankfully power didn't cut off until she got to destination and had parked. When she got back in, it would not start up, only the Full Accessory Power notification. Remote start with FOB or phone did not work as it had with other folks. Just over 2k miles, took delivery mid May. Sitting at the dealership now waiting for an update.

If any other folks who had this issue are still checking this forum and this thread, what was the resolution?
The update here is that local dealership has been in contact with Ford hotline and they indicated the high voltage cabin coolant heater is the likely culprit and dealer is in the process of replacing. It's been in the shop for 3 weeks, but I'm starting to feel better that there's some level of confidence this is the source of the problem.

Sort of regret bumping this (negative) thread on a forum of fans, but hope this can help anyone else dealing with the issue. Really hoping I don't have to follow through on the buy back, but I had initiated that process and have been approved for the first stage of the good faith review, that's what they call it, and we'll see how things shake out.
 
I got my Aviator GT delivered end of May-2022.. Sometime in June-2022 I had a sensors issue popped up on my dashboard and took the vehicle to the dealer. they inspected and told me, they will order the sensors and get it fixed. Suddenly yesterday evening it struck on a highway and stopped working completely. I don't have any recall alerts in the Lincoln mobile app and carfax report too. Assuming it build after the recall. But this issue seems to be persist on many aviator GT. I am worried too much about it now. any of your pointers would be helpful. Thanks
I got the sensor issues popped 2 weeks after the sensors were replaced by dealers service. Soon after that “stop safely now” popped. That’s sounds like something big going on with the aviator GT hybrid system, I am started thinking, this can not be fixed, likely to come up after few weeks or months… anyone know about lemon law ? How do I take advantage of it? Please share information. Thanks

Note: I have the case open with Lincoln concierge service. But they are not talking about buyback… keep convincing me get it fixed by the dealer service.
 
I got the sensor issues popped 2 weeks after the sensors were replaced by dealers service. Soon after that “stop safely now” popped. That’s sounds like something big going on with the aviator GT hybrid system, I am started thinking, this can not be fixed, likely to come up after few weeks or months… anyone know about lemon law ? How do I take advantage of it? Please share information. Thanks

Note: I have the case open with Lincoln concierge service. But they are not talking about buyback… keep convincing me get it fixed by the dealer service.
Depends on the lemon laws for your state/location. You can request a buyback from Lincoln Concierge. Just tell them to submit a buyback request. Typically its based on how long its been in the shop for the same issue or just general shop time depending on your laws. You may also want them to take a look at what electrified said as that could be a possible issue. Also just because you request a buyback doesn't mean you cant still work to get it resolved with a dealer.
 
Sorry for delayed response. I did not receive any email notifications of messages. Anyway, there's a whole lot to unpack here. My local dealership, in their infinite wisdom, told me to pick the car up while they waited on parts for the hybrid battery.

We picked the car up on 2/17. On 2/20, the car quit again on the interstate. My wife was driving in a construction zone with my 2yr old and 4yr old in the car. She called and said the car was acting funny. It would accelerate at 100% and then quit. It would accelerate at 100% and then quit. Then it died. She had to coast almost 3 miles before finding a safe place to pull over. I put a dash camera in the car. I have a 5min video of her coasting on the interstate. She was doing 37mph with semi's blowing past her blowing their horns. My 2yr and 4yr are in the background screaming, "mommy what's wrong with your car? Mommy why won't your car go! Mommy go faster! Are we out of gas?" The car got towed to dealership and has been there since 2/20/22. No parts have been changed, nothing has been done to it

I sent Lincoln an email that night and told them this was no longer my problem. The car is their problem and I want my money back. Lincoln refused. They have told me multiple times that nothing is wrong with the car. They see nothing wrong. They aren't saying I'm lying, They just cant get their tech to replicate it. I asked them to review their decision, no dice. I begged them to buy the car back, no dice.

I called a Lawyer to discuss. He told me since I bought the car in Alabama I would have to sue there. He said he would sue Lincoln, the dealership, and Lincoln financial services. The dealer really didn't know what was going on and I felt they should know before they got sued. So I called them. Within 2hrs of my phone call they offered to buy it back. That sounded great. They were gonna do the right thing, so I thought. Turns out they will only give me my purchase price back. I have to eat the tax, title, license and trade-in tax savings, $7,000. I told them no. The dealer did share the Oasis report with me though, for reasons I'll never know.

I called Lincoln one last time to buy the car back. I told them I had the Oasis report and video evidence of the car quitting. They said no. I told them this wasn't the last time they would hear from me and I would go full scorched earth on them. I would literally burn the whole god damn system down to protect my wife and kids, if they wouldn't buy it back. They told me good luck.

Back to the Oasis report. Oasis is Ford's diagnostic report to help service techs diagnose vehicle issues. It registers fault codes on a 60-day rolling basis. My wife's aviator has disabled the hybrid motor on 14 separate occasions! It registered 358 individual diagnosis faults in a 60-day span. That's 6 faults a day. On 2/2/22, the first time it quit, the car registered individual 35 codes when it shut down. The time stamp on the Oasis matches up minute to minute with the videos and pictures I have showing "stop safely now" & "full accessory power".

A Ford engineer called me, also, and asked to put some type of sophisticated engine monitor on the car. I told him I didn't care, we wont ever drive it again though. It's sitting at the dealership and they could go get it for all I cared. He informed me that almost every single Aviator plug-in is doing this. Not all of them but, "a whole lot of them"

I have been on the warpath with Ford since I obtained the Oasis report and that engineer called. This is the hill I'm going to die on. Ford is going to recall these cars. Someone is going to get seriously hurt or killed. Along with my NHTSA complaint, I have filed complaints with the Attorney General's of Alabama and Kentucky, and have spoken with staff in both offices. I called my local news and did an on camera interview, they are running the story in the coming weeks. They have to contact all the parties I contacted and get statements first. A national CBSNews correspondent called me yesterday to discuss as well. Both of my US Senators sent letters of congressional inquiry to the NHTSA about my complaint, Sen McConnell and Sen Paul. Rep Yarmuth called Ford himself and asked them what they're doing. I sent 3 certified letters to Ford's General Counsel. I filed a complaint with the Alabama BBB, under their lemon law act.

The NHTSA called me and asked for a full report. I spoke to them twice today and they said I'll hear from them tomorrow as well. They have run this up the chain of command and have asked for all of the info I have. They have asked me to provide the videos, documentation and any voicemails/emails/texts from anyone that has touched the car.

After Rep Yarmuth called, the Lincoln customer service rep called me and said they wanted to buy the car back from me. Previously, I told her she would be calling me back asking for the car and she was dismissive of that statement. I warned her, and meant it, when I said I would scorch earth them. There's an old quote from a play, "Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned". I'd like to replace that quote with "don't piss off a stay-at-home dad protecting his babies". I will move Heaven and Earth in order to protect my family, especially my children who can't protect themselves.

We shall see

(Attached is the Oasis report and my service repair orders. My wife took those pictures of my babies before she pulled out of the driveway on 2/20/22. 7 minutes later the car turned itself off at 65mph. That easily could have been the last photos my kids were ever in.)
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@Wilsoa -Wow!! I am so sorry for all you have been through and so thankful your family is safe! I am so glad you posted this as I am now having the VERY SAME PROBLEM with my 2022 Lincoln Aviator GT. It suddenly came to a Full Stop as I went through an intersection about a week ago, almost to the freeway. I feel the same way- IT IS DANGEROUS and I don't want to ever drive my brand-new, expensive vehicle again. I also don't want anyone else to go through this either!

When I got to the side of road, after contacting the Lincoln Concierge, I started Googling the error code on my dash because I could not turn the car off and found a Ford Forum post that suggested taking my foot off the brake and then powering off - which worked. I shared that with the Concierge which she said was good to know "to share with other customers." Like this has happened before??

The tow truck driver said he had seen this several times with 20 and 21 Lincoln hybrids- mine was the first 2022.

I'm still letting the shock wear off and thinking about my next steps. After reading your thread I have a lot more information and some ideas now. These vehicles should be recalled.
 

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Reading this thread makes me rethink ordering one of these in the coming days. We've driven a non-GT Aviator and it was great. My wife decided on an Aviator (and me the GT) in place of a new Q7 or the likes of other brands. This thread is terrifying to read. Granted, she never goes anywhere but we do plan on using this vehicle for road trips... I think we may hold off until more research is done on my end, and reading more and more about this and making some calls.

Thanks for this thread, and I hope that everyone gets a resolution to their issues.
 
Welcome to the Forum swoop1156. 👋

Peter
 
I have had 2 Aviators. A 2020 BL and now a 2022 BL GT. No problems with either. My 2022 is now 11 months old with 12,000 miles. Love both of the vehicles. Like the features of the GT Version. Vehicle says approx. 45% of driving on electri.
 
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