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Last reply · posted in Lincoln Nautilus Forum / Lincoln MKX Forum
My 2020 is having warranty service this week. The sunshade under the roof broke, the liftgate mechanism makes noise that it shouldn't, and the AC outlet on the back of the console won't hold a plug in. Combine that with past work on a leaky oil pan and more, and I've been thinking that I shouldn't keep it past the end of the warranty next spring. There are just too many expensive repairs lurking in this vehicle. It goes against my family history of driving vehicles till they don't run any more.

They initially gave me a 2026 Reserve Hybrid as a loaner, with the 99-way seats and other foolishness. They took it back in order to sell it. Now I have a 2026 2.0L gas Premiere WITH NO SUNROOF which I didn't know was even possible. It seems to be a base model - I haven't looked in detail but there's no foot-operated liftgate, for example. The sound system is basic. It has Blue Cruise. 1500 miles on it. I need to get the sticker to see exactly what it has. I put the VIN into a decoder site which claims it has a 2.7 but I'm quite sure it's a 2.0. Unless the 2.7 is much much smaller than it was in 2020.

Should I be entertaining thoughts of trading in my 2020 on the 2026 Premiere? I am trying to ignore the China factor for now.
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Many dealers these days have the window stickers available on their sites, which list the VIN (since you know hat the VIN is on your loaner). Go to their site, select that you want to buy an in stock 2026 Premiere, and you'll likely find it pretty quickly. (You'll typically see a photo of it, so just look at the ones with the same color as you have).

The engine will be a turbo 2.0 liter. The hybrid variant has more torque/HP than the non-hybrid, though many people are happy with the non-hybrid (and those of us with the hybrids like them, a nice combination of power and MPG).

Premiere is the only tier with a no-sunroof version, and has smaller rims - either 19" or 20" vs. Reserve being 21" or 22" (the actual diameter of the wheels with tires mounted, is the same for all 4 rim sizes). The wife and I would both have been happy w/out sunroof, and with the smaller rim sizes, but found the seats in our Reserve II noticeably more comfortable.
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Many dealers these days have the window stickers available on their sites, which list the VIN (since you know hat the VIN is on your loaner). Go to their site, select that you want to buy an in stock 2026 Premiere, and you'll likely find it pretty quickly. (You'll typically see a photo of it, so just look at the ones with the same color as you have).

The engine will be a turbo 2.0 liter. The hybrid variant has more torque/HP than the non-hybrid, though many people are happy with the non-hybrid (and those of us with the hybrids like them, a nice combination of power and MPG).

Premiere is the only tier with a no-sunroof version, and has smaller rims - either 19" or 20" vs. Reserve being 21" or 22" (the actual diameter of the wheels with tires mounted, is the same for all 4 rim sizes). The wife and I would both have been happy w/out sunroof, and with the smaller rim sizes, but found the seats in our Reserve II noticeably more comfortable.
The Premiere I have now has 255/55 R20, 2.0L gas as I said. I looked at the dealer stock online - they don't have any 2.7L's. Is it not offered any more?

I had a 2.0L Ecoboost in a 2014 Escape previously (I know it was at least two generations ago for that engine). It was plenty of power for the Escape, and it can probably move the Nautilus well enough for the way I drive. I notice if I put it in "Conserve" mode, it really struggles off the line.

This vehicle, and all the dealer stock I looked at, have black interior. Whoops. That is a non-starter in AZ, no black interior for me.
Jacyte
The Premiere I have now has 255/55 R20, 2.0L gas as I said. I looked at the dealer stock online - they don't have any 2.7L's. Is it not offered any more?

I had a 2.0L Ecoboost in a 2014 Escape previously (I know it was at least two generations ago for that engine). It was plenty of power for the Escape, and it can probably move the Nautilus well enough for the way I drive. I notice if I put it in "Conserve" mode, it really struggles off the line.

This vehicle, and all the dealer stock I looked at, have black interior. Whoops. That is a non-starter in AZ, no black interior for me.
the 2.7L is not available in the 24+ nautilus.
The hybrid is the higher performance option instead and makes 310hp up till 2026 where it now makes 285 due to a gas particulate filter.
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Recent trip with hybrid, conserve mode, premium gas, interstates speeds (65 to 74) most of the trip I-59, I-20. I-77. I-I 85. Loaded with cargo. I only need to make one gas stop due to 20 gal tank but I top off when gas is cheaper (Alabama and SC).

Mileage: 712.4 mi
MPG: 33.3
Time: 11:16
Electric Miles: 125.1

I noticed that when I have full tank of gas mpg runs a little lower and drops once you get near 74 to 75 mpg due to drag,

Beats our old 09 MKZ that got a lot less.

I am sure if one does the math the gas engine with regular may be overall cheaper due to bump for hybrid cost (in 24 it was just $1500) but I feel good.
Jacyte
Recent trip with hybrid, conserve mode, premium gas, interstates speeds (65 to 74) most of the trip I-59, I-20. I-77. I-I 85. Loaded with cargo. I only need to make one gas stop due to 20 gal tank but I top off when gas is cheaper (Alabama and SC).

Mileage: 712.4 mi
MPG: 33.3
Time: 11:16
Electric Miles: 125.1

I noticed that when I have full tank of gas mpg runs a little lower and drops once you get near 74 to 75 mpg due to drag/

Beats our old 09 MKZ that got a lot less.

I am sure if one does the math the gas engine with regular may be overall cheaper due to bump for hybrid cost (in 24 it was just $1500) but I feel good.
But then you would lose around 20hp. The hybrid makes peak HP at only 5500 rpm so its a lot more likely it will reduce boost or retard timing with regular vs premium. Engine RPM/load is somewhat independent of accelerator demand so even if you aren't romping on it you may notice a loss in power running lower octane. For me its easily worth the price for premium to get the most effortless feel from the car. If saving money was the goal I definitely would not have opted for a Lincoln over a Ford. I believe the cost difference between regular and premium calculated to around $400 per year with 12k miles per year driving. Most people spend more on coffee.
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Ford Motor Company made a $3 Billion dollar investment in a Marshall Michigan (pop just under 7000) plant (Near Battle Creek MI) to build batteries for electric cars.
While at the same time closing the $5.8 billion Blue Oval SK battery plant in Glendale, Kentucky. 1600 workers were laid off. (population 1900)
The Kentucky plant was to supply batteries for the F150 Lightening to be built in the Blue Oval City plant in Heywood County, Tennessee.

HOWEVER - the Federal Government stopped issuing incentives! The elimination of the $7,500 credit for new EVs and the $4,000 credit for used EVs, which ended September 30, 2025, significantly reduced EV demand and disrupted Ford’s long-term EV battery strategies.
Without incentives, a battery powered vehicle is more expensive than gasoline powered. The mass market moves based on dollars. With the wealthier buyer choosing battery power at times because they can.

The solution for Ford was to pivot! The Tennessee plant will produce gas powered trucks for model year 2029

Meanwhile, Lucid Motors just announced the layoff of 1500 workers or 18% of the work force in the Casa Grande, Arizona assembly plant. (Pop of Casa Grande is 69,000)

When the Government steps in to the business arena, more times than not it is a failure. The state of CA has a mandate for 2035 for 100% of new vehicles sold to have zero emissions. (ZEV) ZEV regulations are technology-forcing policies, incentivizing automakers to develop vehicles with longer electric ranges and lower emissions This is actually a tiered thing making it's way to 100% by model year 2035. Plus as always there are loop holes and exceptions. Which is a reason Ford split the company into two pieces several years ago. There is Ford Motor Company and Blue Oval. Blue Oval builds vehicles with electric power in some variation. My question in all of this legislation is what are the results?? Will we really get that much more significant cleaner air in the US?

Ford is sitting on $23 Billion in cash and cash equivalent accounts. (Which is slightly more than GM has) From the outside one might suggest, expand the North American market to other models that were built in the past. The problem is the Government. With a mandate to build a different power train in a short period of time, this becomes very expensive. Ford dropped $5.8 billion in Kentucky and ended up with nothing. When the Federal Government ended incentives in 2025, that market segment radically changed. Or fell off a cliff.

The current administration has paved the way for lower cost gasoline vehicles to be built. The unknown is what happens after 2028.
It is rather easy to write legislation. Execution become where the rubber meets the road.
And whatever happens, it is you and me that ultimately pays the bill. EVEN if you never buy a new vehicle again, the market changes radically when Uncle Sam steps into the marketplace. It might leave you breathless.

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I thought things were looking really good for hybrids until we stopped pursuing them. The midsize MKZ was up to almost 50 miles per gallon - wasn't it? That was a pretty comfortable and luxurious car. If we didn't stop, where might we be now? I bet it wouldn't have been all that long before we saw full-size luxury cars getting 100mph with hybrid setups... That would have been fascinating - and the automotive industry wouldn't have had to be turned upside-down.
Where to begin. I have a 2025 Lincoln Nautilus that I bought in May 2025. I have had it 12 months and it’s been in the dealership nine times already.

The rotors make grinding noise every time I brake. The liftgate won’t open when I push the button (but it does randomly open on its own when I start the vehicle). The battery has died and they have had to replace it after I begged and begged. The only reason battery was replaced was because I sent a formal letter and they were given one final attempt.

Now, the battery is messed up again. The other issues aren’t fixed. And today, I called Lincoln Customer service. The lady started to help me and said she would get right on it. But then 20 minutes later, I get a call from “Emily” at an Illinois number. She told me they wouldn’t be helping me because they obviously can’t make me happy.

I’m not asking for a back massage or any other perks. I’m simply asking for my new vehicle to work. But instead, Lincoln is doing whatever they can to let the warranty run out. And now they have gone and black listed me from calling.

So now what? I can’t call or get help. I did see there is some law where they can’t ignore just to run out the warranty but I’m thinking they don’t really care.
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I'm not very active on this board anymore, but I continue to monitor it and to enjoy my mostly perfect '24 Nautilus BL.

When I read some of these China-related posts, I admit I'm compelled to react. Many of us are old guys who remember how we'd laugh at the "Made in Japan" junk that was imported in the 60s. We learned the hard way to stop laughing within 20 years. Fast-forward to today: those of you who are rubbing your bellies thinking "China = Junk" are so, so far off. I want to scream, "open your eyes before you realize just what that country of 1.3 billion people can do before it's too late," but it's already too late.

China builds all kinds of low-cost, low-quality products. Just like the US. But whether anyone wants to believe it, they are now technological leaders, just like the US. They may have cheated to get there, but that doesn't change the facts on the ground. And anyone in this country that doesn't want to deal with those facts are hastening our decline and China's ascendency.
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My 2010 Fusion was made in Mexico. Had it for almost 10 years and it was the least expensive and trouble free vehicle I had ever owned prior to buying it.

The 2018 Fusion was also made in Mexico. Again least expensive ownership and problems. Traded it in because I wanted a larger vehicle and it was time, retiring, to try Lincoln in 2022.

The 2022 Corsair was made mostly in the USA and was bought to get the free money the administration was giving out for PHEVs. But it was a base model and missing a lot of the nice options that the Fusion had.

Traded that in on a 2025 loaded Corsair GT. Made mostly in USA. Again a trouble free vehicle and no out of pocket costs.

Room and comfort were again pulling me towards the Nautilus. So I traded that in last Feb for a 2026 Nautilus BL. While I've only had it for 4 months I have had no issues. Roomy and comfortable to drive. Had to get over the made in China issue along with the oval steering wheel that reviews seem to object to. In 4 years when the BL runs out if it's made here I'll try one. As far as the oval steering wheel goes I like it.
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I'm not very active on this board anymore, but I continue to monitor it and to enjoy my mostly perfect '24 Nautilus BL.

When I read some of these China-related posts, I admit I'm compelled to react. Many of us are old guys who remember how we'd laugh at the "Made in Japan" junk that was imported in the 60s. We learned the hard way to stop laughing within 20 years. Fast-forward to today: those of you who are rubbing your bellies thinking "China = Junk" are so, so far off. I want to scream, "open your eyes before you realize just what that country of 1.3 billion people can do before it's too late," but it's already too late.

China builds all kinds of low-cost, low-quality products. Just like the US. But whether anyone wants to believe it, they are now technological leaders, just like the US. They may have cheated to get there, but that doesn't change the facts on the ground. And anyone in this country that doesn't want to deal with those facts are hastening our decline and China's ascendency.
One of the reasons China has a bad reputation when it comes to good quality products is because of their huge population. When you have that many people producing things, you're going to have far more cheaply produced goods than high quality. Most people aren't highly intellectual. Most people don't do amazing work. These are always exceptions. The masses are stupid and product crappy work and products. And we're flooded with those products here in America. But that doesn't mean there aren't super high quality products being made and produced by the exceptional. I'm not sure why people don't seem to realize this.
angore
I do not agree with all that but China had a history of making cheap stuff because a large part of the population were dirt poor and not well educated. Many workers come from inland areas. One company I worked with had dormitories for workers because were not native to the areas. American companies went there and trained them because labor was very cheap.
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One of the reasons China has a bad reputation when it comes to good quality products is because of their huge population. When you have that many people producing things, you're going to have far more cheaply produced goods than high quality. Most people aren't highly intellectual. Most people don't do amazing work. These are always exceptions. The masses are stupid and product crappy work and products. And we're flooded with those products here in America. But that doesn't mean there aren't super high quality products being made and produced by the exceptional. I'm not sure why people don't seem to realize this.
Don’t agree at all. If the world wants quality from china we get it. Think Apple. The reason we got low quality stuff is because that’s what we ordered from them
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I do not agree with all that but China had a history of making cheap stuff because a large part of the population were dirt poor and not well educated. Many workers come from inland areas. One company I worked with had dormitories for workers because were not native to the areas. American companies went there and trained them because labor was very cheap.
The Chinese are perfectly capable of making amazing products. It would be a dream if Lincoln made something like THIS. But:
Don’t agree at all. If the world wants quality from china we get it. Think Apple. The reason we got low quality stuff is because that’s what we ordered from them
...and there you have it...
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I'm looking to the button press sequences that enter "Engineering Mode" for the main display and the SYNC 4 maintenance menu. Web and "AI" searches all give me sequences that I can't use (like pressing and holding Seek-Right and Volume Down - since I have a "joystick" on the wheel that has both of these functions, I can't hold them both)...

Suggestions?

Thnk you in advance.
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I'm looking to the button press sequences that enter "Engineering Mode" for the main display and the SYNC 4 maintenance menu. Web and "AI" searches all give me sequences that I can't use (like pressing and holding Seek-Right and Volume Down - since I have a "joystick" on the wheel that has both of these functions, I can't hold them both)...

Suggestions?

Thnk you in advance.
Hello and welcome! Frustrating when generic AI searches give you instructions that are physically impossible for your specific steering wheel.

It sounds like you're dealing with two completely different diagnostic menus here, and those generic searches were completely steering you (no pun intended :p) wrong on the SYNC 4 sequence. Pressing volume down + seek right is actually the reboot sequence for the Mustang Mach-E, not the diagnostic sequence for the Corsair!).

Here are the correct sequences for your Corsair GT:

1. Instrument cluster engineering test mode (ET mode)

This mode tests the gauge cluster, chimes, battery voltage, and raw sensor data.

- With the car completely off, press and hold the OK button on your steering wheel (the center press of the right hand directional pad).

- While continuing to hold OK, press the engine Start button once to turn the ignition to accessory mode (don't put your foot on the brake - you don't want the engine to start).

- Keep holding the OK button for about 5-10 seconds.

- The letters "ET" or "Engineering Test Mode" will appear on the instrument cluster screen. You can then release the OK button and use the up/down arrows to scroll through the hidden menus. To exit, just turn off the vehicle.

2. SYNC 4 / main display maintenance menu (APIM diagnostics)

This menu lets you test the touchscreen, speakers, telematics modem, and view active accessory protocol interface module (APIM) fault codes. Since you can't physically press volume down and seek right on your left joystick at the same time, you have to use the vehicle's secondary sequence.

- Turn the vehicle on (accessory mode or fully running).

- Make sure the audio is turned on (playing the stereo is fine).

- On your steering wheel's left joystick, push and hold to the right (seek right).

- At the same time, press and hold the seek right / skip forward button on your dashboard's physical media/climate control panel below the screen.

- Hold both buttons together for about 10 seconds.

- The screen will suddenly drop into the speaker walk-around rest. Once that starts, you can hit "end test" to back out to the main bezel diagnostics menu.

If you ever actually need to force a soft reboot of your main screen because it freezes, the sequence for the Corsair is to press and hold the physical power button - the center of the dashboard volume knob - along with the seek right button on the steering wheel for 10 seconds until the screen goes black.
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- On your steering wheel's left joystick, push and hold to the right (seek right).

- At the same time, press and hold the seek right / skip forward button on your dashboard's physical media/climate control panel below the screen.

- Hold both buttons together for about 10 seconds.

I don't have a console seek right / skip forward button (see attached photo).

For the ET menu, my joystick does not press in at the center position - OK is a position to the right that is illuminated when it is needed - there is not an "OK" position when the car is off...PXL_20260628_191700179.MP_e.webp
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I found the SYNC 4 "Bezel Diagnostics" menu - With the audio on (for me it was FM Radio) press and hold the console audio power button while holding the steering wheel Volume-Down toggle - after several seconds the speaker test will start.

Resetting SYNC 4 - hold the console audio power button and the steering wheel Skip-forward (right-pointing arrow) for several seconds and SYNC 4 will reboot.

I have not yet figured out the Engineering Mode...

Tom
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@tadiv, thank you very much for following up and sharing those exact button combinations! That's a fantastic find and will be very helpful for other Corsair owners on the forum who are running into the exact same issue. Looking at the console layout and the capacitive steering wheel in your photo, it makes perfect sense why the older manual button methods failed for you.

Regarding the Instrument Cluster Engineering Mode, you're running into a physical roadblock that a lot of owners with the newer capacitive steering wheels are discovering. Because your OK button is not a physical switch and completely powers down when the ignition is off, it's impossible to perform the traditional sequence of holding the button down before turning on the vehicle.

Unfortunately, it appears Lincoln has locked out manual button access to the instrument cluster Engineering Mode on these newer digital dashes because of this hardware change. At this point, the only reliable way to view that raw cluster and sensor data on the newer models is by plugging in an OBD2 diagnostic scanner and pulling the information through software like FORScan.

In any event, thanks again for posting those SYNC 4 sequences for everyone.
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Last reply · posted in Lincoln Town Car Forum (1981-2011)
I am trying to replace the passenger mirror on my 1997 Town Car and have run into a problem. The original mirror has 2 wiring terminals, 1 has 6 wires and the other has 4 wires. All replacement mirrors I see online (Amazon, Ebay Parts Geek, etc.) have only a single wire terminal with 5 wires. Since the original mirror has been discontinued by Lincoln, I wonder if someone offers an adapter (wire harness) of some sort that would allow the 5 wire terminal on the replacement mirror to connect to the original wiring inside the door. What are my options?
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I am trying to replace the passenger mirror on my 1997 Town Car and have run into a problem. The original mirror has 2 wiring terminals, 1 has 6 wires and the other has 4 wires. All replacement mirrors I see online (Amazon, Ebay Parts Geek, etc.) have only a single wire terminal with 5 wires. Since the original mirror has been discontinued by Lincoln, I wonder if someone offers an adapter (wire harness) of some sort that would allow the 5 wire terminal on the replacement mirror to connect to the original wiring inside the door. What are my options?
You can find just the glass IF that is all you need to replace.
IF the whole unit is defective I would grab a Multimeter and a friend and test out the wires
your 5 wire should be ( 4- directional) and (1- heat)
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ghs
You can find just the glass IF that is all you need to replace.
IF the whole unit is defective I would grab a Multimeter and a friend and test out the wires
your 5 wire should be ( 4- directional) and (1- heat)
I need to replace the whole unit as the mounting base is broken and the mirror adjustments don't work. I'll try to find someone who can help me with a multimeter to ID which of the 10 wires existing do I need to wire into the 5 wires on the replacement mirror terminal. Thanks!
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The outside electrically operated mirror can have multiple functions depending on options.

Adjustment
Heated glass
Dimming
Then the mirror head may have other things like a compass or lighting.

This is the reasoning for other wires.

There isn't an adapter that I am aware of.

However one might be able to remove wires from the connector and use the relevant wires from the donor mirror in the connector from the old or existing mirror.

This would mean carefully removing the wires from the connector. NOT cutting and crimping. Cutting and crimping generally means an electrical problem in the future.

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The passenger mirror would not have dimming function.

Connector 608 (6 pins) handles the motors and heat. Connector 615 (4 pins) is for position sensing related to the memory mirror function.

Note that memory mirrors are not directly controlled by the mirror switch but through the Driver Seat Module (DSM). I don't know if a mirror without the position feedback will work as a non-memory mirror or if the DSM would fault.

The attached wiring diagrams show the wire colors.
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On ebay did you include your specific model year in the search?
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Yes, I verified on the seller's page that the mirror selected would be a fit for my 1997 Town Car. Every mirror I have seen listed as a fit from any online provider (Amazon, Ebay, Parts Geek and others) have shown only a 5 pin terminal connecter on the replacement mirror.
@etinpa is correct in his post... on the original mirror, the 6 pin terminal contains the wires that control the directional and the heat functions.
I actually ended up taking apart the 6 pin terminal on the oringal mirror and the 5 pin terminal on the replacement mirror to get to the individual wires and through trial and error, was able to determine the correct wire pairings to make each function (up, down, right, left) work. The wire colors don't match up at all. I'm not sure the heat works on the mirror but I don't need that so no worries.
So, another task scratched off the list!
Thanks to all for your help!
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Last reply · posted in Lincoln Corsair Forum / Lincoln MKC Forum
Got 2 recall letters this week. Thank you Lincoln for telling me about these problems I didn't know about my car and then telling me you have no fix. I feel better now.
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Got 2 recall letters this week. Thank you Lincoln for telling me about these problems I didn't know about my car and then telling me you have no fix. I feel better now.
I got the letter about the wiper motor, but no other. The last time I used the wipers they worked OK.
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Just pulled that update down to my PC. Will update via USB
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Just pulled that update down to my PC. Will update via USB
Completed the update this afternoon and all went smoothly. Didn’t notice anything different or unusual
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Good point about the log file - I'd just make sure to upload it either way so there's a clear record that the recall was addressed and you don't get hassled about it later.
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I got a letter advising me that the remedy for the inverted rear camera display is available. It says to contact the dealer for an appointment for the software update. It must be a major update if I can’t just download and install it myself.
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I got the letter about the wiper motor, but no other. The last time I used the wipers they worked OK.
No recalls yet, but my wipers seemed to run a self test every morning. When I start the car, put in in reverse to exit the garage, the wipers cycle once every freakin time.

began getting annoyed with it a few months ago, now I just don't use the sensing position at all
MORSNO
No recalls yet, but my wipers seemed to run a self test every morning. When I start the car, put in in reverse to exit the garage, the wipers cycle once every freakin time.

began getting annoyed with it a few months ago, now I just don't use the sensing position at all
I could be wrong, but I think I saw a setting for this on our car in the settings.
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Completed the update this afternoon and all went smoothly. Didn’t notice anything different or unusual
how did you do that?? I bet thats a lot less trouble for me to do than to take the car to dealer

Why wouldn't they just make it an automatic update :-(
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Last reply · posted in Lincoln Corsair Forum / Lincoln MKC Forum
I own a 2017 Lincoln MKC with the 2.0L EcoBoost engine. The vehicle has begun displaying recurring low coolant warnings and overheating symptoms. After researching the issue, I learned that many owners have reported coolant intrusion, where coolant leaks into the engine cylinders due to a defect in the engine block design. This can cause coolant loss without visible leaks, rough starts, misfires, overheating, check engine lights, and ultimately engine failure requiring engine replacement. I am currently seeking a diagnosis to determine whether my vehicle is experiencing the same known EcoBoost coolant intrusion issue.
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It indeed is a well documented problem primarily with the second generation 1.5L and 2.0L EcoBoost engine family. These engines were in many 2017-2020 MY vehicles. An easy way to tell if your vehicle has this issue is

Top off your coolant. Drive the vehicle. Park it and let it sit overnight. Pop the hood in the morning, check the coolant level, then remove all 4 spark plugs and send a camera/borescope down the spark plug opening into each cylinder checking for standing coolant or a very clean piston. If either are present, check the cylinder walls for cracks.

You can also swing by your local dealership and have them run your vin to see if your vehicle has been flagged for the TSB/CSP for this well known issue and see if youre eligible for a free engine replacement.
Orion12
I have a 2017 MKC that had the same issue, it was coolant leaking into the cylinders. I took it in on the last day of my warranty and they replaced the engine under warranty. I was told back then that it would have not been replaced for free if I was no longer in warranty which angered me. I do believe I read somewhere that they are replacing these out of warranty now. This was an issue caused with their design so they should be replacing them outside of warranty.

My wife is still driving my MKC after I bought a 2024 Nautilus hybrid reserve 2. The MKC runs great now, no issues.
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Last reply · posted in Lincoln Town Car Forum (1981-2011)
2001 Lincoln Town Car Cartier wires hanging from rear headliner what are they for
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2001 Lincoln Town Car Cartier wires hanging from rear headliner what are they for
Might be aftermarket

Pics?
oktowncar
Rear window defroster :unsure:
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And other vehicles regarding the transmission parking problem.
Seven injuries and 2 emotional injuries.
No fix yet. Maybe not till 2027
Use the parking brake.

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Why am I not surprised?..
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I've been chasing some squeals in my brakes, fully serviced rotors all-around, new pads all around, last weekend even cleaned and put some "bedding surface" of some type on the rotors (from the autoparts store); still no dice. Has anyone ever had just a bad/loud pads right out of the box? I'm ready to shoot the parts canon, because for the life of me, I cannot find the cause of the squeal and its awful.

During this work, a shop guy* was helping apply the brakes while I was looking for the noise, and he commented the pedal felt soft. To me, it feels normal, but I drive it every day and it feels the same as my previous 2007 Town Car. He's also coming from the world of trucks, I don't think he and his wife even have a car. I'm wondering if "our" pedals are intended to have a softer feel? Engagement doesn't start in earnest until 1/3 down; a hard stop I'd press to probably the lower 1/4 of travel. For due diligence, I did completely flush my brake system (definitely needed done anyway), everything properly bled, but the pedal feels the same. Does anyone have a pedal that's engaging right around the top of travel or is the feel intended as a "luxury" feature (I believe it is)?

* - interestingly, while I find the squeal ear piercing, both shop guys (only ~12 years older than me), cannot hear it at all. I would be inclined to think "I" was crazy if it weren't for the looks of horror and plugging ears from women and children when I drive around our quiet town square.
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Soft or spongy pedal is usually associated with air in the system.
Temperature and humidity can impact brake feel to some extent and this will vary with brake friction material types.

Noises or sounds when braking or at times when the pedal is NOT pressed.
Typically can go away with harder braking when applying the brake pedal.
Can fluctuate with humidity.

Usually due to dirt/contaminants or misalignment of braking surfaces.
And brake friction material DOES have a big play in squeaks & squeals.
Adding a gasket, grease or sealant on the BACK side of the pad can help as well.

Brake friction types
Organic, semi-metallic, full metal or sintered metallic, Ceramic, and hybrid ceramic

Which type did you install on your Town Car?
Just for clarity, the rotors were replaced, correct?

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I just had the rotors turned, not replaced; they were still well within service limits. I just bought the cheapest pads available, I assume organic, (BrakeBest brand at O'Reilly's), under the assumption that cheaper has poorer performance, but less squealing (brother has high performance pads on his 300 SRT8, and hates the noise they make).

Squealing only under moderate, aka typical pressure. No squeal underway, no squealing under hard braking. If I purposely hold the brakes where it makes them squeal (during a long moderate decel, or while "power braking" at a constant speed), it will go away after a bit, but comes back shortly after the system cools back down. I did not do any sort of bedding procedure for them (again something brother's car requires); never previously needed.

I do have grease on the slides, pad backs, and everything is very clean. It's not misaligned and no jittering under any pressure.

Definitely no air in the system.

Maybe I'll swap back to front and start chasing the noise.
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Brakes squeal when the friction material is not fully engaged to the rotor. Or parts of the pad are not fully engaged. So, there is a high-pitched sound from pad or areas of the pad engaging and disengaging. Vibrating if you will.

There are two methods of reducing or eliminating the sound.
Stop the pad from moving or vibrating. Or get more of the pad engaged to the rotor.

The grease, gaskets, shims or other means on the back of the pad are in an attempt to absorb the movement or vibration of the pad.
Nearly everything else is an attempt to get more or total contact of the pad to the rotor under all circumstances. (Hot cold, slow rotation or fast rotation)

Dirt/dust or any other foreign things on the pad/rotor or on the caliper mounting prevent the pad from perfect contact with the rotor. Cheap pads are likely organic as you guessed. In addition to the dust they generate, they tend to absorb other things easier (mostly fluids) that can change the friction over parts of the surface of the pad. Which makes installation interesting as any foreign substance on the friction side of the pad or the braking area of the rotor becomes an issue. Using a brake clean spray product may not get out all of any foreign substance.

The rotor machining is critical as well for alignment. And to provide a surface that is consistent and free of hard spots.

My Navigator specifies Ceramic pads. That is all I have ever used. And I get them at Auto Zone or O'Reilly's. Because those two locations (and maybe others) have a lifetime guarantee. They are higher in cost. However, I keep my vehicles for a long time. In the long run I am money ahead.
Plus, the ceramic do not make any squeaks or squeals. Because they are a denser and more uniform material where it meets the steel rotor.

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I'm wondering if "our" pedals are intended to have a softer feel?
I've driven Panthers exclusively for the last 25 years. Every time I drive someone else's car I do a quick brake check right away just to see what I'm in for just because I'm so used to Panther brakes. That being said, an experience that stands out to me was a time I had to move a friend's new Toyota Highlander about 7 or 8 years ago after replacing pads on all 4 corners on my old '00 MGM. I LIGHTLY tapped the brakes and almost went through the windshield. So yeah, just a little bit of a difference. :ROFLMAO:
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I'm wondering if "our" pedals are intended to have a softer feel?
Yes, softer and squishier feel than any other vehicle I've ever driven

* - interestingly, while I find the squeal ear piercing, both shop guys (only ~12 years older than me), cannot hear it at all. I would be inclined to think "I" was crazy if it weren't for the looks of horror and plugging ears from women and children when I drive around our quiet town square.
There is a range of high-pitched sounds that most children can hear, but are inaudible to most adults (even those without a hearing loss condition). Random fact: Beatles took this into consideration when making their Sgt. Pepper's album.
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Ever since I had to replace my alternator, I've had odd electric issues. The back windows no longer work, the wiper fluid motor doesn't engage, the speakers pop randomly even without music playing. I've tried replacing the driver door module and tested all the fuses/relays but nothing came up.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Ever since I had to replace my alternator, I've had odd electric issues. The back windows no longer work, the wiper fluid motor doesn't engage, the speakers pop randomly even without music playing. I've tried replacing the driver door module and tested all the fuses/relays but nothing came up.

Any advice is greatly appreciated!
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Any trouble codes with the issue(s) ?
When you changed the Alternator did you clean the mounting points for the Alternator before installing?
Sometimes corrosion can interfere with Currents coming to/from the alternator and create electrical Gremlins
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Check for AC voltage from the alternator. Too much AC ripple can limit available charging voltage and reek havoc with the vehicle electronic circuits.
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Or is the battery weak?

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+1 Have the battery checked and replace if needed
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