What are your likes and dislikes concerning the Lincoln Corsair?

[RedHoncho]

Does the inflated back area setting help?

Yes it does. So does the massage. I just took a 1600 mile trip. Overall they were comfortable.

 

[GapBoyPCS]

After a month of ownership but little time behind the wheel (less than 1,000 miles thanks to the pandemic):

Dislikes (really minor annoyance, but might as well be critical - cue the Get of My Lawn mode):
- Shifting at the touch of a button (either it's slow, or me being too quick to stomp on the gas - especially when I back out of a parking space or my driveway).
- Auto Hold, especially at the stop lights or in a drive-thru carwash.
- SYNC 3.4 feels a bit slower than my old SYNC 3 system.
- Wireless charging placement (I would have preferred it in the front cubby where the ports are).
- No wireless Android Auto (but that's due to no SYNC 4).
- Needing another small tool to get the centre cap off the 20s - that thing can easily be lost or misplaced (why there isn't a holder for it is a bit surprising).
- Key fob buttons could be better spaced apart or more distinguishable, especially when you're lazy and not wanting to get it out of your pocket or bag.
- I wished the massaging portion went higher up into the shoulder area.
- Automatic wipers feel like they need a few more speed settings. Rear wiper switch is a bit too small and finicky for my taste.
- Piano Black trim. Now I get the griping. I'm usually OCD on fingerprints, so time for a microfibre towel to take residence in the door pocket for those dusty situations.
- Figuring out the part number for that cargo cover (sorry, package shelf). Thank goodness for this forum
- Lincoln Welcome can be a bit too sensitive. I didn't realize I was setting it off while I was inside the house (small house).

Likes:
- Love the styling of this. Not many around, so it's nice to be unique.
- Quiet. Love how this thing cruises on the roads.
- Unless I'm still in a strange break-in phase, I'm getting better fuel economy in this 2.3L versus my previous Escape's 2.0L. Gotta love the extra horses when passing and keeping up with the flow of traffice.
- Revel sound system.
- Perfect Position Seats.

 

[GapBoyPCS]

Snow can sometimes clog the anti-collision sensors on the front bumper. I started carrying a snow melt spray in my vehicle in the winter. I spray it on the sensors when that happens. It is supposed to not only melt the snow but also keep it from sticking. It is mostly effective.

I'll have to remember this one. We had a storm last month and it was time for some last minute Christmas shopping. My app and message centre were filled with Forward Collision Warnings after the front sensor was caked with wet snow that froze over. I didn't realize the front camera was also covered until shifting into reverse and wondered why the image was so blurry. Sadly, a lot of my friends with other vehicles have the same problem. Joys of modern safety.

 

[heywardjr]

Hi Cekkk. Vehicles are far more complicated nowadays, with tons of features. Some we may want, some we may not

In my opinion, the best way to be sure we are happy with what we buy is to factory order it. Do our due diligence (as you said), go through the standard and optional features, then factory order it exactly how we want it (within the Order Guide constraints), as opposed to settling for what is on the Dealer lot or what they can "find". Otherwise, we are at the mercy of whatever is on hand/available at the moment, or whatever the Salespeople have been told to push that week.

Of course, I also understand that some people want it now, or do not have the luxury of being able to wait 8-10 weeks. In that case, we have to take what we can get.

Hopefully you will eventually be able to overlook the perceived shortcomings of your new Corsair.

Hope you have many safe and happy miles of driving and good luck.

I totally agree. I have ordered from Ford and Lincoln every vehicle since the early 2000's. Back in the beginning, Ford was taking only 3 weeks to fill a special factory order. It was fantastic. It' staking 6-8 weeks now with Corsair but that's ok with me. I'm retired as of today (1/7/22) and so I can wait and be patient for this superb car. I researched a lot of vehicles and think this is one of the best out there these days. No doubt in my mind at all. I took my time this time and even looked at non-Ford vehicles. Corsair GT won me over big time.

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[Voidoid]

I totally agree. I have ordered from Ford and Lincoln every vehicle since the early 2000's. Back in the beginning, Ford was taking only 3 weeks to fill a special factory order. It was fantastic. It' staking 6-8 weeks now with Corsair but that's ok with me. I'm retired as of today (1/7/22) and so I can wait and be patient for this superb car. I researched a lot of vehicles and think this is one of the best out there these days. No doubt in my mind at all. I took my time this time and even looked at non-Ford vehicles. Corsair GT won me over big time.

Congrats on the retirement!! Any plans for a road trip in the new ride?

My Corsair GT has a tentative build week of 1/31 (ordered 10/9.) Can't wait to get behind the wheel...

 

[joeb427]

Just went over 1K miles and the Corsair has been great. A minor dislike is a small 8" screen.

 

[syl]

A minor dislike is a small 8" screen.

I wouldn't want a big tablet of a display in a car. Call me a dinosaur, but I like regular old buttons and knobs. ...

 

[Jewopaho]

My '21 Grand Touring with 301A package is a beautiful piece of machinery ... rides exceptionally smooth for a smaller SUV, plenty of pickup in both electric and fuel modes, comfortable seating ... very satisfied overall. My issues are minor, but nevertheless should be brought to the designers' attention:

The transmission push-buttons (especially Drive) aren't located in the most convenient places ... perhaps a circle cluster around the Start/Stop button would be a better configuration.

The HomeLink control on the visor is a pain. I have to "Braille" it when it's down, and hunt for it at night since it's not back-lit.

I have to reset the circulation control each time I start the vehicle. I prefer it on recirculation most of the time, to avoid smelling fumes and other unpleasant odors. It's default setting allows "fresh" air to enter the cabin. It should be left at the selected setting when the vehicle is turned off.

Not bad, though, given the technological advances these days. I'm glad I bought it.

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[heywardjr]

I'll probably buy a third party wind deflector when I get mine in a few weeks. Thanks for mentioning this.

 

[Jewopaho]

Oh ... one more thing I failed to note: the Talk button is mounted directly on the steering wheel, at the !0:00 position. I've accidentally activated it about a half-dozen times, and have finally learned to avoid hitting it. Certainly not the most logical placement.

I've just reached 2K miles and am enjoying the drive.

 

[heywardjr]

Syl, I agree. I originally ordered a Mach-E but did not want to wait a long time. I then discovered by accident the Corsair and it blew my mind. What a stylish, elegant, sophisticated and yet economical in the hybrid sense. Yeah, expensive car by most standards but I am willing to pay for what you get and I have been a Ford customer over 40 years now as I bought a Ford Fairlane 500 back in high school in 1970. I have always enjoyed Ford and Mercury vehicles a long time. Just something about them that appeals to me.

 

[syl]

The Corsair is my first ever Ford vehicle. Going back to high-school, I was the "Mopar or no car" guy. Though I never did own a proper Mopar vehicle (only a couple with parts branded "Mopar"; not the same thing). Let's face it, though, short of the late model Challengers (and even with those, I fear), Chrysler's best days are simply well behind them.

My first car was a Honda (1978 Civic), though I almost don't count it (for a first car, the tendency is to get whatever you can afford that they'll let you put plates on). I've only owned two cars since (yes I buy cars for the long term), both Chryslers. The last simply didn't age well and when it was time to replace it sticking with Chrysler simply wasn't terribly interesting.

I started seriously considering some foreign models, and got really excited when I saw the F-Pace. At some point, I figured if I'm looking at that, X3, XC-60, and similar, I should likely have a look at what Ford and GM are doing. In the end, the top two real candidates were the XT4 and the Corsair, with the Corsair only slightly, but noticeably ahead of the XT4 for comfort and quiet. Had I been looking more for sportiness, my choice might have gone the other way. I haven't regretted the choice for a moment. Now to go back and tell *that* to my high-school self ...

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[Pabaldeagle]

Just crossed 1000 miles and very happy with Corsair GT. I drive mostly "Pure EV" for my short commute (12 miles round trip) and charge every other night. It automatically engages the ICE on occasion either due to demand, use of paddle shifters, or to (I assume) charge the 12V. I've tinkered with other modes listing my observations under a separate thread.

I'll list a few more dislikes in hopes these comments make their way back to designers so when I'm ready to trade in my 2021 for a 2025, they will have addressed these items.

• To me, the lift gate close button on the "passenger" side. After placing my parcels (where there are no hooks/tie downs!) I continue to take a step toward the drivers door only to have to double back and reach for the button on the "wrong" side of the lift gate. (I know, barbaric, right?)
  
  
• Parking aid apparently sees room between "objects" not "lined parking slots". I found asking it to help me park in the first slot of a parking lot (next to grass field) fails since it can't see the first slot, only spots between already existing objects/cars.
  
  
• Intelligent adaptive reads "truck speed" signs and slows me down. Before adjusting my speed, it should consult GPS posted speed (which my "non-intelligent" old 2013 Explorer can do and show me the little speed sign based on my location, not the actual sign). (Luckily this forum already warned me of this oddity).

Finally - a few imponderables. I've listed on other threads but have not received answers. Any thoughts?

• Why does the drive mode button press down? Is this akin to hitting enter? Does not seem to be required as drive mode changes upon rotation.
  
  
• Has anyone driven a GT from full gas/full electric to empty/empty and recorded the total range? Sticker shows 430 miles driving range but I can't see how this is achievable (11 gallons @ 33 MPG + 28 miles on electric << 430) and my dashboard never shows more than about 300 combined. For comparison, the Aviator sticker shows 460 so this is not just the end of the range ribbon on the sticker).
  
  
• Has anyone figured out how to show a tachometer in the 12 inch display - in any mode? I'd like to use the paddle shifters along a windy part of the highway and monitor the stress I'm putting on the ICE.

 

[bbf2530]

Just crossed 1000 miles and very happy with Corsair GT. I drive mostly "Pure EV" for my short commute (12 miles round trip) and charge every other night. It automatically engages the ICE on occasion either due to demand, use of paddle shifters, or to (I assume) charge the 12V. I've tinkered with other modes listing my observations under a separate thread.

I'll list a few more dislikes in hopes these comments make their way back to designers so when I'm ready to trade in my 2021 for a 2025, they will have addressed these items.

• To me, the lift gate close button on the "passenger" side. After placing my parcels (where there are no hooks/tie downs!) I continue to take a step toward the drivers door only to have to double back and reach for the button on the "wrong" side of the lift gate. (I know, barbaric, right?)
  
  
• Parking aid apparently sees room between "objects" not "lined parking slots". I found asking it to help me park in the first slot of a parking lot (next to grass field) fails since it can't see the first slot, only spots between already existing objects/cars.
  
  
• Intelligent adaptive reads "truck speed" signs and slows me down. Before adjusting my speed, it should consult GPS posted speed (which my "non-intelligent" old 2013 Explorer can do and show me the little speed sign based on my location, not the actual sign). (Luckily this forum already warned me of this oddity).

Finally - a few imponderables. I've listed on other threads but have not received answers. Any thoughts?

• Why does the drive mode button press down? Is this akin to hitting enter? Does not seem to be required as drive mode changes upon rotation.
  
  
• Has anyone driven a GT from full gas/full electric to empty/empty and recorded the total range? Sticker shows 430 miles driving range but I can't see how this is achievable (11 gallons @ 33 MPG + 28 miles on electric << 430) and my dashboard never shows more than about 300 combined. For comparison, the Aviator sticker shows 460 so this is not just the end of the range ribbon on the sticker).
  
  
• Has anyone figured out how to show a tachometer in the 12 inch display - in any mode? I'd like to use the paddle shifters along a windy part of the highway and monitor the stress I'm putting on the ICE.

Hi Pabaldeagle. Only concerning fuel mileage: Since everyone's driving environment is different, it is impossible (and an exercise in futility) to compare fuel mileage.

The range of any Hybrid and/or battery vehicle is heavily dependent on that driving environment, amount of regenerative braking, etc. etc. Even more so than driving environment alone is for ICE only vehicles.

Good luck.

 

[Pabaldeagle]

Yep, ”my results may vary“.

I’m asking owners about real world achieved range. While I don’t expect to achieve EPA (they simulate but 80% are within 1mpg) this is the only standard for relative comparisons between models and manufacturers using whatever assumption, styles, temperatures etc…

Without other inputs from GT owners, I conclude the 430 range is just plain wrong and will provide actual feedback per EPA site. (For one thing, they show the gas tank capacity as 12 gals vs 11.17 per manual)

 

[Montreal-Howard]

Hate: no floor heater for rear (freeze toes in winter)- in fact entire “auto” system sucks. Rattles galore. Wipers freeze. No lock button on trunk? Underpowered, and very noisy when pedal down. 6 buttons for cruise (and behind wheel??). Can’t turn adaptive cruise on/off without 3 menu depth.
Great: seats. Comfort. All the old people stuff.

I prefer my Audi Q5.

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[Montreal-Howard]

Oh y’a. Thé Nav system. I can’t see where we are going (text on top blocks it). Route accuracy sucks. I just use Waze.

 

[joeb427]

Hate: no floor heater for rear (freeze toes in winter)- in fact entire “auto” system sucks. Rattles galore. Wipers freeze. No lock button on trunk? Underpowered, and very noisy when pedal down. 6 buttons for cruise (and behind wheel??). Can’t turn adaptive cruise on/off without 3 menu depth.
Great: seats. Comfort. All the old people stuff.

I prefer my Audi Q5.

I'd sell it and buy another Audi. No issues here.

 

[syl]

Rattles galore.

That you should probably have checked out. Mine doesn't rattle, and is much quieter than any car I've owned before it.

Wipers freeze.

Have you tried the defroster? Turn on the rear-window defrost, and there's a similar heating element in the windshield that keeps the wipers warm. It's not perfect, but it does help a lot. It also de-ices side mirrors.

No lock button on trunk?

The trunk locks when it closes. What am I missing here?

Underpowered, and very noisy when pedal down.

I'm guessing that you're one of *those* drivers ... It's not a race car, and you're not on a race track. We're likely driving in very similar environments, and I find it goes from service road to highway just fine, and even has enough power to tow a trailer. And I have the 2.0L engine. But no, it won't win any "drag races". Relax a little. Enjoy the ride.

6 buttons for cruise (and behind wheel??).

Yes, though you really only need two of them in practice. It really doesn't take long to get used to the unusual location of them. Just like the 4 button transmission selector.

Can’t turn adaptive cruise on/off without 3 menu depth.

That and your comments about inadequate hvac, I have no reply for. I don't find I have issues with the same (though I admit I don't spend any time in the back seat while driving, and I think that the adaptive cruise can be enabled or disabled from the "driver aids" shortcut button under the screen; someone please check me on that), but I can see that they could possibly be found inadequate or a nuisance for some.

Great: seats. Comfort. All the old people stuff.

Well, it *is* a Lincoln. I would expect that they would get the "old people stuff" right by now.

I prefer my Audi Q5.

And while I found the Q5 had some very nice driver-centric features, it didn't come close to the Corsair in ride comfort, especially for passengers. I test drove a number of cars the same day, with the same passenger. We took notes. I wanted to like the Q5 more than I could. Passenger comfort was higher on my priority list than acceleration from a complete stop. You may have a different set of priorities.

It sounds to me like you probably shouldn't have bought a Corsair. More research might have been in order?

 

[kingdre]

Yes it does. So does the massage. I just took a 1600 mile trip. Overall they were comfortable.

I love the massaging function. The Corsair seems to be a slight upgrade or improvement over the one in the MKZ.