New owner “25” Corsair. What pieces are missing and anything issues or problems I need to look for?

[Buddybiro]

First noticed no engine cover, now floppy rear fenders. What’s next?

 

[NJRonbo]

First noticed no engine cover, now floppy rear fenders. What’s next?

From experience, it's the car that keeps surprising you with issues.

 

[Buddybiro]

From experience, it's the car that keeps surprising you with issues.

Did you have these issues? What did you do?

 

[NJRonbo]

Did you have these issues? What did you do?

Personally, my issues involve numerous software bugs in the older Sync 3 infotainment system that come and go; Water leakage out of the back hatch when washing the vehicle; Seats that had to be brought to the dealer to be tightened to stop movement; Numerous recalls, one of which involves a danger of engine fire that Ford/Lincoln still has not been able to fix.

You'll find many posts here about build quaility issues which is why when you mentioned yours, it came at no surprise.

I am the crumudgeon around here when it comes to Ford/Lincoln. I don't think their vehicles are well-built.

However, others here will give you a more optimistic viewpoint.

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[kennethkistner@bellsouth.]

There are several threads about rear fender rattlers especially 2022 Corsairs.

 

[Emo Jim]

The only issue I am having with my 23 Reserve III 202A package is rattles when driving on surface roads at slower speeds. There is a pretty bad rattle about the sunshade somewhere around the glass roof. It is in the dealer right now getting that taken care of. It's quite annoying when driving if you don't have the radio up loud.

 

[NJRonbo]

Software bugs, multiple recalls, subpar build quality

 

[MattMacMan]

First thing Ill say is, people go out of their way to complain, hardly anyone ever makes an effort to praise. Hence why 99% of any forum for any vehicle from all manufacturers youll find more complaints than praise. So take that into consideration. Also, no vehicle is perfect. Well maybe a hand built and rattle tested Rolls before it even leaves the factory....but who wants to pay for that? These just like 99% of all other vehicles on the roads these days are mass produced at a quick pace. Fit and finish will be excellent, but never perfect. Alot of the 20-23 models had COVID related issues with feature deletes, chip shortages, and other measures necessary to get vehicles to dealerships rather than being held in lots at the factory with people waiting on their orders to arrive at dealerships for months on end (and prices skyrocketing even further than they already have due to an even bigger shortage while they were being held). The new vehicle bumper to bumper warranty is there for a reason. Use it. My wifes 24 Corsair wasnt perfect either. Had the subwoofer delete. We fixed that. My 23 Nautilus had feature deletes. We retrofitted parts when they became available. The floppy fenders can be fixed with parts ordered from a 20-22 model (theres some plastic pieces not present on the newer ones that are there on the older ones, they are direct bolt on fits that fix this very issue and there are plenty of posts in this forum about just that).

I feel people have very unrealistic expectations when it comes to vehicles these days (I'm a Service Advisor at a Ford dealership, I deal with people like this every single day.) You can go visit your Toyota/Lexus dealership, and their service departments are filled up with appointments 2 weeks out as well (so much for reliability). Mass produced vehicles with so many electronics, and parts will have some quirks. If you demand perfection, pony up for it and buy a hand built, rattle tested, pre-broken in vehicle from the factory like a Rolls or Bugatti or Bentley.

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[Buddybiro]

First thing Ill say is, people go out of their way to complain, hardly anyone ever makes an effort to praise. Hence why 99% of any forum for any vehicle from all manufacturers youll find more complaints than praise. So take that into consideration. Also, no vehicle is perfect. Well maybe a hand built and rattle tested Rolls before it even leaves the factory....but who wants to pay for that? These just like 99% of all other vehicles on the roads these days are mass produced at a quick pace. Fit and finish will be excellent, but never perfect. Alot of the 20-23 models had COVID related issues with feature deletes, chip shortages, and other measures necessary to get vehicles to dealerships rather than being held in lots at the factory with people waiting on their orders to arrive at dealerships for months on end (and prices skyrocketing even further than they already have due to an even bigger shortage while they were being held). The new vehicle bumper to bumper warranty is there for a reason. Use it. My wifes 24 Corsair wasnt perfect either. Had the subwoofer delete. We fixed that. My 23 Nautilus had feature deletes. We retrofitted parts when they became available. The floppy fenders can be fixed with parts ordered from a 20-22 model (theres some plastic pieces not present on the newer ones that are there on the older ones, they are direct bolt on fits that fix this very issue and there are plenty of posts in this forum about just that).

I feel people have very unrealistic expectations when it comes to vehicles these days (I'm a Service Advisor at a Ford dealership, I deal with people like this every single day.) You can go visit your Toyota/Lexus dealership, and their service departments are filled up with appointments 2 weeks out as well (so much for reliability). Mass produced vehicles with so many electronics, and parts will have some quirks. If you demand perfection, pony up for it and buy a hand built, rattle tested, pre-broken in vehicle from the factory like a Rolls or Bugatti or Bentley.

First off if you read the original post you will see I wasn’t complaining! I will however complain to my dealer and let them handle it. Take off a badge or engine cover that don’t make the quality of the car any less of a quality car that I paid for. I paid for a Lincoln and want Lincoln quality! If I wanted an escape I would have purchased one! I love my Corsair and the extra quality that I paid extra for, don’t try to justify that just because you work at Ford. I DID NOT BUY A FORD! I PAID FOR A LINCOLN! And I want the whole Lincoln not just most of it. The parts that are missing should be missing on a ford. Not the Lincoln. As soon as I put mudflaps on to further protect the money I spent the whole back fender hangs down and wobbles, that isn’t Lincoln quality!

 

[NJRonbo]

First off if you read the original post you will see I wasn’t complaining! I will however complain to my dealer and let them handle it. Take off a badge or engine cover that don’t make the quality of the car any less of a quality car that I paid for. I paid for a Lincoln and want Lincoln quality! If I wanted an escape I would have purchased one! I love my Corsair and the extra quality that I paid extra for, don’t try to justify that just because you work at Ford. I DID NOT BUY A FORD! I PAID FOR A LINCOLN! And I want the whole Lincoln not just most of it. The parts that are missing should be missing on a ford. Not the Lincoln. As soon as I put mudflaps on to further protect the money I spent the whole back fender hangs down and wobbles, that isn’t Lincoln quality!

Thank you for this.

Perhaps the comment was made about my complaint.

This is the problem I see coming from a service advisor at a Ford Dealership, whom I would hope I would never hear say, "The new vehicle bumper to bumper warranty is there for a reason. Use it."

We are talking about a luxury vehicle that costs an average of $60k (before the average price of cars became $50k). For that price, I should be getting my money's worth. As the poster above said, I didn't buy an Escape. I bought a Corsair. That vehicle should be exemplary. If I had bought a Toyota or Lexus, I wouldn't be getting a poorly built vehicle. Their standards are far above American-made vehicles. I'm sorry, but Ford is sloppy. They don't have a good reputation. And, it burns me that these vehicles have so many build and software issues at the price point they are being sold at.

 

[MattMacMan]

Thank you for this.

Perhaps the comment was made about my complaint.

This is the problem I see coming from a service advisor at a Ford Dealership, whom I would hope I would never hear say, "The new vehicle bumper to bumper warranty is there for a reason. Use it."

We are talking about a luxury vehicle that costs an average of $60k (before the average price of cars became $50k). For that price, I should be getting my money's worth. As the poster above said, I didn't buy an Escape. I bought a Corsair. That vehicle should be exemplary. If I had bought a Toyota or Lexus, I wouldn't be getting a poorly built vehicle. Their standards are far above American-made vehicles. I'm sorry, but Ford is sloppy. They don't have a good reputation. And, it burns me that these vehicles have so many build and software issues at the price point they are being sold at.

So what you’re saying Toyota Service Departments only change oil? I think you should go see for yourself. Toyota quality isn’t what it used to be. Tundras having catastrophic engine failures, Tacomas having transmission problems, lots of fit/finish issues with their sedans, I’m just pointing out that nothing is perfect. We got just a few businesses down from us. I see their trucks getting towed in on a regular basis. Don’t see F-150s getting dropped off by tow trucks here lol.

Also, Ford/Lincoln are one and the same. You bought the vehicle without an engine cover, because it doesn’t come with one. That doesn’t make it lower quality brother. It never had one when it rolled off the assembly line. It can’t be missing when it was never there. The 2023+ Corsair has a different engine setup, the old cover was deleted since it can’t accommodate the new layout of the engine bay. And a new one was never designed.

And lastly, what I said about the warranty, it still stands. Didn’t mean it in a nasty way, I meant it is there for a reason. In the event there’s a defect. Lots of people don’t use it. They complain and try to DIY stuff. I see it all the time. I don’t know why, but they do. I highly recommend using it to your advantage. You paid for it too. It’s included in the price of the vehicle from the factory. It’s a benefit.