Has anyone notice lane centering not centered?

[inmanlanier]

Been there and done that as well. But thanks

 

[dieselaman]

Is this feature supposed to work automatically when not using cruise control? I have seen the green/red bars in the HUD, but it rarely seems to correct the centering when driving on non-cruise control. Maybe this is something I need to have looked at?

 

[peterk9]

Is this feature supposed to work automatically when not using cruise control? I have seen the green/red bars in the HUD, but it rarely seems to correct the centering when driving on non-cruise control. Maybe this is something I need to have looked at?

As per your manual, Lane Centering only works with the Adaptive Cruise Control switched ON and with Lane Centering selected using the steering wheel controls. I don't know about the green/red lines as I don't have the HUD nor do I use the feature itself.

Peter

 

[dieselaman]

As per your manual, Lane Centering only works with the Adaptive Cruise Control switched ON and with Lane Centering selected ON using the steering wheel controls.

Peter

Thanks! So the feature does require the cruise control to be on.

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[Pete@STAP]

Have it on my 2021 F150 Plat. Tried it couple times and got sick of it quickly. It requires me to hold the wheel at 9-3 o-clock, which i haven't done in my 50 years of driving and am not entertaining at all. If not, it'll scream at me and will soon after tell me to take over. Plus i don't trust it to boot and have no use for it. Aviator we're waiting on might be different, but my gut tells me i wont be using it either.

 

[inmanlanier]

Have it on my 2021 F150 Plat. Tried it couple times and got sick of it quickly. It requires me to hold the wheel at 9-3 o-clock, which i haven't done in my 50 years of driving and am not entertaining at all.

We have over 500 miles of more or less strait interstate in our trips back and forth to North Carolina. For any bends in the road, they are gentle so it seems to do well. So far it has tracked well. Remember - it looks for lane dividers on each side of the lane (for lane centering) - so I would suspect that this gives it good guidance. I like it for a good bit of the driving, Except, of course - the strategy on how to hold the damn wheel to satisfy the computer!

 

[inmanlanier]

Thanks! So the feature does require the cruise control to be on.

Yes for lane centering. No for lane keep assist.

 

[rjabend]

We have over 500 miles of more or less strait interstate in our trips back and forth to North Carolina. For any bends in the road, they are gentle so it seems to do well. So far it has tracked well. Remember - it looks for lane dividers on each side of the lane (for lane centering) - so I would suspect that this gives it good guidance. I like it for a good bit of the driving, Except, of course - the strategy on how to hold the damn wheel to satisfy the computer!

Actually, more modern systems are electrically capacitive so barely touching the wheel keeps the system activated. The problem with the Aviator is that it requires you to apply force to the steering wheel which, of course, may not be necessary on a straight road. Having to apply unnecessary force to keep the system activated is a pain!

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[peterk9]

Actually, more modern systems are electrically capacitive so barely touching the wheel keeps the system activated. The problem with the Aviator is that it requires you to apply force to the steering wheel which, of course, may not be necessary on a straight road. Having to apply unnecessary force to keep the system activated is a pain!

It could also keep you attentive and awake on long straight roads.

Peter

 

[rjabend]

It could also keep you attentive and awake on long straight roads.

Peter

Peter - Modern systems also monitor your attention to the road and the messages you receive telling you that ADAS is shutting down and/or the vehicle beginning to slow down is probably a distraction in itself. The Aviator system is disappearing for those reasons and if you fall asleep your hand will likely come off the steering wheel I believe you said a while back that you don't use lane centering; is that still the case?

 

[rjabend]

Peter - Modern systems also monitor your attention to the road and the messages you receive telling you that ADAS is shutting down and/or the vehicle beginning to slow down is probably a distraction in itself. The Aviator system is disappearing for those reasons and if you fall asleep your hand will likely come off the steering wheel I believe you said a while back that you don't use lane centering; is that still the case?

PS - I believe Ford and Lincoln have already gone to a hands-free system on the Navigator and Nautilus

 

[dieselaman]

Yes for lane centering. No for lane keep assist.

I'm now confused. I enabled the lane keep assist, which is the button on the left side of the steering wheel blade, correct? This is the feature that vibrates the steering wheel and shows a green/red bars in the hud. However, I have noticed it does very little to assist with keeping the lane. I thought this feature would help with keeping the lane, but have not noticed any assistance. Also, I have not tried the cruise control yet, so I am not sure what the difference between features the two are.

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[rjabend]

I'm now confused. I enabled the lane keep assist, which is the button on the left side of the steering wheel blade, correct? This is the feature that vibrates the steering wheel and shows a green/red bars in the hud. However, I have noticed it does very little to assist with keeping the lane. I thought this feature would help with keeping the lane, but have not noticed any assistance. Also, I have not tried the cruise control yet, so I am not sure what the difference between features the two are.

I didn't list the page numbers since they may have changed since my manual was issued but below are the sections that I believe have the information you are looking for. It is a little lengthy with all the CYA content, but I believe it covers the areas you have questions on. It shows all the buttons and functions. Hope this helps


There is a Lane Centering video at: https://www.lincoln.com/support/how...-control-with-stop-and-go-and-lane-centering/

It doesn't appear to be Aviator specific but may be helpful.

 

[dieselaman]

I didn't list the page numbers since they may have changed since my manual was issued but below are the sections that I believe have the information you are looking for. It is a little lengthy with all the CYA content, but I believe it covers the areas you have questions on. It shows all the buttons and functions. Hope this helps

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There is a Lane Centering video at: https://www.lincoln.com/support/how...-control-with-stop-and-go-and-lane-centering/

It doesn't appear to be Aviator specific but may be helpful.

Thanks! Important to note that you have to be driving above 40 mph for this to work. Was not aware of that. So the lane keeps will aid with maintaining lanes and what does the lane centering do? They seem the same.

 

[rjabend]

Thanks! Important to note that you have to be driving above 40 mph for this to work. Was not aware of that. So the lane keeps will aid with maintaining lanes and what does the lane centering do? They seem the same.

Lane Centering keeps you centered between the lines and Lane Keeping warns and tries to stop you from crossing the lines if you approach them.

 

[peterk9]

Thanks! Important to note that you have to be driving above 40 mph for this to work. Was not aware of that. So the lane keeps will aid with maintaining lanes and what does the lane centering do? They seem the same.

It keeps you in the center of the lane when ACC is ON and Centering is selected as mentioned before. Lane Keeping can be used without ACC and will warn you when getting close to the lane markings..

Peter

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[bbf2530]

Hi dieselaman. Just to add to peterk9's good information above: Unless it has been changed lately, *Lane Keeping Assist* has two settings. One is essentially *Warn only*, which will vibrate the steering wheel several times to tell the driver they are wandering out of the lane.

The second setting is *Warn and assist*, which will also nudge the vehicle back between the lane lines. However, it does not keep the vehicle centered in the lane, as the *Lane Centering* setting does when the Adaptive Cruise Control is on.

Hope this information helps and good luck.

 

[inmanlanier]

I'm now confused. I enabled the lane keep assist, which is the button on the left side of the steering wheel blade, correct? This is the feature that vibrates the steering wheel and shows a green/red bars in the hud. However, I have noticed it does very little to assist with keeping the lane. I thought this feature would help with keeping the lane, but have not noticed any assistance. Also, I have not tried the cruise control yet, so I am not sure what the difference between features the two are.

Read my last diatribe. It's all described there.

There are TWO systems. Lane keep assist is NOT Lane Centering. I'd like to think my discussion is rather thorough.

 

[inmanlanier]

Lane Centering keeps you centered between the lines and Lane Keeping warns and tries to stop you from crossing the lines if you approach them.

But Lane Keep Assist does not add near the centering force that Lane Centering does. It's very easy to cross the lines with just lane keep assist. Lane Centering does a much better job keeping you between the lines in the event that's your sole desire.

 

[ChuckL]

Re: applying force to the wheel to prevent Lane Centering from turning off--The Aviator is much better at this than my previous Audis, in two ways. First, although both cars require you to periodically apply force to the wheel, the Aviator allows much more subtle pressure than my Audis did. I learned to give the wheel an actual jerk every 10-15 seconds on straight roads in my Audis to keep the system from complaining. Second, an Audi, when the timer goes off, complains very loudly right away. The Aviator, on the other hand, gives you a visual warning in the HUD first, and only makes noise several seconds later. So most of the time you can give the wheel a slight movement before the car complains audibly.

In case anybody wants to comment about driver inattention: I have both hands on the wheel 99% of the time, in either 10-and-2 or 9-and-3 position. The thing is that the centering is so good that you really don't have to provide any input. The small adjustments that we've all gotten used to making subconsciously become unnecessary with good lane centering. If you're on a straight road with no wind, there's really no reason for you to provide input to the wheel, and your subconscious stops doing it. And then the car complains, even though you're still fully attentive to driving the car.