Who has submitted an order for the new 2024 Nautilus?

Hi Khak4. You are very welcome!
Honestly, I am not sure about the eligibility/qualification rules concerning Ford Partner Company retirees to obtain Ford Partner Company X-Plan PINS.

I will take a look through the Ford Partner Company rules package when I am home and can view it all more easily on a computer screen (versus this quite smaller phone screen😉).

In the meantime, if it helps, here is the Ford Partner Company Recognition website:

And I’ll also post back when I have the definitive answer.

EDIT- I had an extra minute to take a look through the above website, and it does mention “retirees”. So I will give a qualified “yes” that Ford Partner Company retirees seem to be eligible. I would also add this caveat…Assuming as long as they have the necessary company identification, to prove they were a qualified employee/retiree to show the dealership if/when asked.

Good luck.
Well all I can show is my last W2 from the year I retired. Assume that would work.
 
Well all I can show is my last W2 from the year I retired. Assume that would work.
Hi Khak4. My guess would be another qualified “yes”. However, I will defer to recommending you make a call to Plan Headquarters and/or asking your selling Lincoln Dealership if that is acceptable.

Plan Headquarters can give you the official answer. And your selling Dealership will give you the answer as to what they will accept. Might be two different answers, but if the Dealership will accept it, you’re good.;)

Sorry I can’t give a more definitive answer.

Keep us updated and good luck.
 
Hi Khak4. My guess would be another qualified “yes”. However, I will defer to recommending you make a call to Plan Headquarters and/or asking your selling Lincoln Dealership if that is acceptable.

Plan Headquarters can give you the official answer. And your selling Dealership will give you the answer as to what they will accept. Might be two different answers, but if the Dealership will accept it, you’re good.;)

Sorry I can’t give a more definitive answer.

Keep us updated and good luck.
You’ve done a wonderful thing by providing us all with great information.
 
They know we leave in early November each year. They kept my wife’s Mach e , California Route on the floor locked last year so I expect nothing different this year.
Large floor or small dealership? It’s interesting to me how they’d keep an unavailable clients locked vehicle on the showroom floor? Super nice for you but for them it takes up valuable demo/sale space. Can’t open it, can’t show it, please don’t touch it? Good for you for sure. Strange for them.
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Dealer told me I have to live in same household based on company rules of his company. Does that make sense?
It’s called ‘Friends and Neighbors’ for a reason. Does your dealer expect you to live with either of them? Having said that a dealer can set any ‘rule’ they want to a point. And they can also BS people as well.
Here’s a link to the actual form we use.

And for the rules. Dealers do not verify eligibility. The sponsor ie the one who generates the pin does that. You give dealer your pin and last four of ssn. That’s it.
 
What if my browser messed up on the page where you hit submit to get the pin? Am I screwed?
 
What if my browser messed up on the page where you hit submit to get the pin? Am I screwed?
??? Not sure how far you are into the program. Probably not if you haven't entered your social security number. From what I've read, the PIN is tied to your social security number. It may just open the page for you to enter information.

But I've NEVER done this before ether. So keep us informed.
 
That hha
What if my browser messed up on the page where you hit submit to get the pin? Am I screwed?
That happened to me. So I did it a second time. I ended up with two pins. On the site, click on the PINS menu item and you’ll see your pin. It actually does assign one but the screen appears to hang on you.
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I was able to retrieve my pin and sent it to my dealer. Thanks.
 
What if my browser messed up on the page where you hit submit to get the pin? Am I screwed?
That happened to me once. Look and see if you can access your PIN history.
 
Hi gang. Sorry if my previous posts listing a basic outline of the rules were confusing. So to add some clarification, here are some of the available plans, and clarifications (in red):

From my previous posts concerning- Ford Employee/Ford Retiree "Friends and Neighbors" X-Plan PINS. "These are available for 'Friends and Neighbors' of Ford Employees and Retirees. We ask them if they will give us one, and they can register us for a PIN."
This plan is for Ford employees/retirees to offer PINs to their "Friends and Neighbors" as stated. The Ford employee/retiree can offer and generate a PIN for anyone they wish (up to their annual limit). Friends, neighbors etc. Obviously, the individuals do not need to live in the same household as the Ford employee/retiree. You can see the rules page using the link 7.62Kolectr posted. Ford employees/retirees have a dedicated website they use to generate A/Z Plan PINS for themself, and X-Plan PINS for their friends/neighbors.

From my previous post concerning "Ford Partner Company X-Plan PINS" (while it is an X-Plan PIN, this is not a “Friends and Neighbors” plan)- These are available to qualifying employees/retirees of “Ford Partner” companies. Only the actual Partner Company employee/retiree, and those residing in the same household/at the same address, are eligible to use these PINS. For those PINS, the qualifying Partner Company Employee/Retiree obtains their company code from their HR Department (or equivalent), and use it to register on the “Ford Partner Company” X-Plan website, where the Partner Company employee can then register for an X-Plan PIN for themself, or for a qualifying resident of their household."
This plan is for employees/retirees of "Ford Partner Recognition Plan" companies. Eligibility is for the actual "Partner Recognition Company" employee/retiree and residents of the same household, with the same address. It is not a "Friends and Neighbors" plan like the Ford Employees/Retirees.
The Partner Recognition Company Employee has a dedicated website (a different website than a Ford Employee/retiree) which they use to generate an X-Plan PIN for themself or the individuals living in their household (2 per year).
Dealers are supposed to verify/ID the Partner Company employee status and/or address and household requirements. Do all Dealers do that? Probably not. But be ready if they do follow the rules and do ask for company ID/address verification.
You can find the rules for the Partner Recognition Company Plan on the website I linked to in my previous posts.
Here is a copy and paste from that website:

"Partner Recognition:
An eligible Partner Recognition employee or retiree may generate up to two (2) PINs per calendar year to be used towards the purchase/lease of a new vehicle for them or members of their households as noted below (see PIN Generation for details):
  • Employees (full time, part-time and contract), retirees and spouses of eligible Partner companies (suppliers, fleets, etc.) and members of specific organizations or groups.
  • Residents of the same household as listed above (driver’s license required for proof of residency).
  • Participation is by invitation only as determined by Ford Motor Company and Lincoln Motor Company. Not all suppliers, fleets, etc. are eligible."

From my previous post concerning Club X-Plan PINS (again, while it is an X-Plan PIN, this is not a "Friends and Neighbors" X-Plan plan)- These include clubs like the Mustang Club of America and others. I believe the rules for those are the same as for Ford Partner Company X-Plan PINs. Only the qualifying Club Member and those residing at the same household/address are eligible to use a PIN. And along with club membership/ID requirements, there is usually a waiting period after joining the club before a PIN can be generated. 90 days is common. I’ve never used or provided one of those. Taking an educated guess, I’m assuming there is a website for the club where the club member would register and obtain a PIN for themself or other qualifying individual residing in their household/address."
I am less familiar with all the rules for Club Plans, but am going under the assumption the rules are similar to the "Ford Partner Recognition Company" plan rules. The Club member would be able to generate an X-Pan PIN (2 per year) for themself and residents of their own household/address. Just as with the "Ford Partner Recognition Company". Again, it is not a "Friends and Neighbors" type of plan like what Ford employees and retirees have. And there is usually a waiting period after joining. Typically 90 days.
And just as with the "Ford Partner Company Recognition" plan, Dealers are supposed to verify eligibility and address requirements. Do all Dealers do so? Likely not. But again, be ready if they do.
Perhaps a Club member can post the rules website, it available.


Hopefully that better clarifies some of the rules differences between the Ford Employee/Retiree "Friends and Neighbors" X-Plan rules, as opposed to the "Ford Partner Recognition Company" X-Plan and Club X-Plan rules. While all theree are "X-Plan PINS", the eligibility rules/requirements differ between all three.

You can see some of the rules differences by looking at these two websites:

The website I posted for "Ford Partner Recognition Company" X-Plan- https://www.fordpartner.com/partnerweb/jsp/howitworks/fordpartner_rules.htm

The "Ford Employee Friends and Neighbors" X-Plan website (thanks to 7.62Kolectr)- https://www.myplan.ford.com/myplanweb/jsp/howitworks/myplan_x_rules.htm

We can also download forms etc.

To protect our X-Plan purchasing rights, anyone purchasing under those plans should certainly read the appropriate website, in order to acquaint themselves with all of the rules and regulations. Because again, auditing and policing by Ford/Lincoln is minimal. Therefore, many (but not all) Dealerships do sometimes play a little fast and loose with customers who do not know the X-Plan pricing guidelines.

Feel free to ask any questions if it is still a bit confusing.

Good luck.
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Just curious about X Plan pricing if anyone knows.

My dealer has at the bottom of his website the following legal statement. It starts like this:
Although every reasonable effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information contained on this site, absolute accuracy cannot be guaranteed. *Prices do not include tax, tag, title, $998.50 dealer fee and $279 electronic registration filing fee.​
My question is the X Plan states Inventory +0.06% plus $275. Any other amounts have to be shown on the agreement. Are the Dealer Fees and Electronic Registration Filing Fee an adder or under X Plan do they go away?

Apologize for dumb question (because I think I know the answer) but this is my first X Plan purchase and just trying to get smart. Thanks for understanding.
 
Just curious about X Plan pricing if anyone knows.

My dealer has at the bottom of his website the following legal statement. It starts like this:
Although every reasonable effort has been made to ensure the accuracy of the information contained on this site, absolute accuracy cannot be guaranteed. *Prices do not include tax, tag, title, $998.50 dealer fee and $279 electronic registration filing fee.​
My question is the X Plan states Inventory +0.06% plus $275. Any other amounts have to be shown on the agreement. Are the Dealer Fees and Electronic Registration Filing Fee an adder or under X Plan do they go away?

Apologize for dumb question (because I think I know the answer) but this is my first X Plan purchase and just trying to get smart. Thanks for understanding.
Hi SgtLip. You would get more accurate information by looking at the websites linked to above by 7.62Kolectr and myself. However, I’ll give it a quick shot at a basic overview.

The dealer is required to provide you a copy of the actual vehicle Invoice for your vehicle. When it arrives. That Invoice must include the box listing the X-Plan price.
You can be charged that X-Plan price and the “$275 Administrative Fee”. Plus tax, license and registration fees (reasonable, not jacked up for profit). And up to a $100 “Documentation Fee”.

Delivery and Dealer Prep are already included in the X-Plan pricing structure for the vehicle. They can not charge you more for those items. And according to X-Plan rules they can not charge you the ”$998.50 dealer fee and $279 electronic registration filing fee”.

Any other dealer add-ons (I.e. window etching, paint protection, pinstriping etc. etc.) are to be agreed upon and price negotiated by you and the dealership.

Those are the basics. But again, the procedure is explained in detail in the Ford Partner Plan website I linked to in my earlier posts.

Feel free to ask any questions, and good luck.
 
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Unfortunately I realized it, I don't appreciate it, nor do I like it. If I have ANY choice in the matter I don't buy from "Made in China". Support Made in the USA as much as possible.
I agree. I have a 2016 MKX. The service I get from Lincoln is outstanding and I was really planning on a 2024 Nautilus... until I found out that it is made in China. Now I'll be looking at Cadillacs...
 
I have a 2016 MKX. The service I get from Lincoln is outstanding and I was really planning on a 2024 Nautilus... until I found out that it is made in China. Now I'll be looking at Cadillacs...
You couldn't give me a GM product.
I guess you won't be using any of the CHINESE made crap that your Cadillac is made from then. I would venture to say 80% or more is made in China. So good luck, not sure you'll have much of a car to drive. Last time I checked even the US manufactured vehicles are stocked with Chinese crap. Maybe you should look into buying a Red Wagon. Or are those made in China now too?
 
I have a 2016 MKX. The service I get from Lincoln is outstanding and I was really planning on a 2024 Nautilus... until I found out that it is made in China. Now I'll be looking at Cadillacs...
If your issue is patriotism or politics, that's fine. I understand. If your issue is dependability and reliability, I think you're moving in the wrong direction. This is coming from a member of a family of GM employees.
 
That’s the strange thing I found about the Lincoln Tracking site. I was sure on December 28 I saw the update change as status had changed to shipped with a date of December 27. A couple days ago the update on the tracking page change back from 28 to 27 December and has stated that way. I did check yesterday with dealer and although it says my order is “on the water”, vinview still showed location as sitting in the Port of Shanghai.
On another note I have been wondering how reliable the vessel finder website is. One example is that it has shown Platinum Ray ship stuck in the same place near Japan for weeks now. Colour me confused!!
Tim.
When did you get your nautilus delivered? Was it to annacis island? How long did it take to get from annacis island to dealership?
 
When did you get your nautilus delivered? Was it to annacis island? How long did it take to get from annacis island to dealership?
Annacis Island is where all Canadian imports are being delivered. If you know your ship, good job. Sorry, but I believe it was taking quite a bit of time in Canada for deliveries, depending upon how remote you were. 2-3 months, typical. But that was quite a while ago. Hopefully, someone else will give you a better idea of current wait times.
 
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