Open Letter to Lincoln - How I'd Improve the Corsair

[olderbudweiser]

Trust me the Engineering folks know exactly what going on. Problem is the surrounding support. Finding and allocating resources to property address problems.
Engineers can complain amongst themselves till they are blue in the face. Normally problem is couple levels above the worker bee engineers. Its all about $$$$$. Value your job = keep your mouth shut.

 

[RedHoncho]

I'm wondering how many threads you are going to start with the same post. It sounds like you need to take your vehicle to the dealership for service to get some of these items fixed like your #2.

#1 driving modes are NOT remembered in any vehicle. It always resets to the default setting of Normal.

#3 As for the HV battery algorithm, this has been discussed in other threads. The battery algorithm is much like the gas driving range algorithm with more sensitivity to environmental conditions. Your driving habits affect it especially if you have a lead foot. Having your HVAC on can affect it. Cold temperatures outside can greatly reduce your range. If you had an EV it would be exactly the same.

Any drive mode will start the ICE engine if there is demand for more power like driving up a hill or pushing the accelerator down very quickly.

I truly doubt there are any engineers on this forum that work for Lincoln. This forum is primarily vehicle owners helping each other out.

Good luck!

 

[ColonelColt]

I have a new GT PHEV Corsair...only just over 500 miles so far but haven't experienced any issues. Here in AZ we've been having 110+ degree temps nearly every day so the a/c gets a workout and it operates superbly. When I first got the car...before the heat went up so high...I was getting the stated 27-30 miles on battery. Due to heat and constant a/c the juice does run down a bit faster than before...completely understandable. To get something you have to give up something.

I have noticed in the heat the batteries are only charging up to 25-26 miles per charge. While I'm not an engineer, IT guy nor do I play one on TV...my Mark I brain tells me the electronic circuitry will only let the batteries charge up to certain point in such temperatures for safety. An overloaded or overcharged battery in such heat can be trouble. It must be a safety thing factored into the software.

And Im still getting 82+ mpge with the car. I'm not complaining.

 

[Dimi1]

I'm wondering how many threads you are going to start with the same post. It sounds like you need to take your vehicle to the dealership for service to get some of these items fixed like your #2.

#1 driving modes are NOT remembered in any vehicle. It always resets to the default setting of Normal.

#3 As for the HV battery algorithm, this has been discussed in other threads. The battery algorithm is much like the gas driving range algorithm with more sensitivity to environmental conditions. Your driving habits affect it especially if you have a lead foot. Having your HVAC on can affect it. Cold temperatures outside can greatly reduce your range. If you had an EV it would be exactly the same.

Any drive mode will start the ICE engine if there is demand for more power like driving up a hill or pushing the accelerator down very quickly.

I truly doubt there are any engineers on this forum that work for Lincoln. This forum is primarily vehicle owners helping each other out.

Good luck!

Thanks for the reply .....
So I can clarify...
One version was published by error and could not erase it...

Also The fact that all vehicles are reverting back to the Default mode is not a great idea. I still stand by the opinion they should allow the last mode to be the starting mode.
For example i like driving in the conserve mode and do not like to fiddle changing modes every time i restart the car.
Im sure Im not alone on that.
I drove my daughters car (tesla 3) and i can assure you the battery algorithm is much more realistic. For example, with AC on, as i pull out the driveway and drive for 4 to 5 kms, it is pretty close to 4-5kms of range consumed as it shows on the dashboard. With The corsair immediately i see a consumption of 4-5 Kms even if i did 1 km or less depending on temperature.

Im posting for other Corsair GT Hybrid owners to chime in and see if they are experiencing the same as Iam, and to poke the Bear in Lincoln to perhaps make some innovative changes so we can all get more out of the Very small battery that costs A LOT in this vehicle.

I was told that engineering is reading some of our posts. They might or not implement all of the wishes but it gives them an idea as to how the consumer thinks and wants.

Don't beat up on me without asking why I published twice.
My apologies if it bothered people this got published 2X.

Regards
Dimi

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[rexflash]

There is already a thread pinned to the top, an Open Letter to Lincoln, where you should have posted your comments, which are your opinions, instead of starting a new thread.

 

[B_A_H]

Trust me the Engineering folks know exactly what going on. Problem is the surrounding support. Finding and allocating resources to property address problems.
Engineers can complain amongst themselves till they are blue in the face. Normally problem is couple levels above the worker bee engineers. Its all about $$$$$. Value your job = keep your mouth shut.

The Corsair is EOL (end of life). '25 will be the last year and the year-over-year changes from 23' to 25' are minimal and mostly packaging modifications and color changes. In addition, Ford's moving from Sync to an Android based system so there won't be major updates to Sync. In other words, what you got is what you're going to get.

 

[Dimi1]

yikes. I hope i get a good trade value early next year as I will move to a Tesla Y refresh then. No point of keeping a car if its the EOL. One thing though its a nice car. I like it but if they will not do anything / Updates its not worth it.
Here we go again. The consumer gets shafted

 

[B_A_H]

Ford sold 44M cars in '23. If 1/3 had Sync that's 14M just last year. They'll keep Sync updated and fix bugs, but I wouldn't count on them introducing new features or developing it further. I've had my car since May and have received 4 updates so I'd say Ford is doing better than most in terms of keeping the system current and addressing issues. What you're describing isn't an issue, it's your displeasure with how Ford implemented a feature. That's highly unlikely to be changed.

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[greerl]

yikes. I hope i get a good trade value early next year as I will move to a Tesla Y refresh then. No point of keeping a car if its the EOL. One thing though its a nice car. I like it but if they will not do anything / Updates its not worth it.
Here we go again. The consumer gets shafted

Don't know where your infirmary is coming from but it surly send likely to be that the Corsair will continue until a replacement is available. I do susoect though that replacement might be an EV, maybe PHEV and EV with no gas only.

Even so, if you like the Corsair, why change early?

 

[Administrator]

There is already a thread pinned to the top, an Open Letter to Lincoln, where you should have posted your comments, which are your opinions, instead of starting a new thread.

The topics have been combined.

 

[MTNestr]

My biggest gripe with the PHEV is the lack of a true "Pure EV" mode. Currently, on the GT, "Pure EV" gets overridden by the computer in various situations that often make no sense. Leave that for some other mode. When I select "Pure EV", I mean it. Turning the ICE on for a few seconds or minutes is bad, very bad, for the engine. It's enough to make me avoid the PHEV even though I otherwise like it.

I agree with everything you have said! In addition add a larger battery for driving in Pure EV.

 

[GreatOutdoors]

My biggest gripe with the PHEV is the lack of a true "Pure EV" mode. Currently, on the GT, "Pure EV" gets overridden by the computer in various situations that often make no sense. Leave that for some other mode. When I select "Pure EV", I mean it. Turning the ICE on for a few seconds or minutes is bad, very bad, for the engine. It's enough to make me avoid the PHEV even though I otherwise like it.

Oh wow. I had no idea if you select “Pure EV” it would not stay in that all electric mode. That definitely is going to make me rethink the GT Corsair. Thank you for sharing that.

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[GreatOutdoors]

I have three items I'd like addressed in the Corsair.

1.) In the Sync infotainment, allow us to set a primary phone or a priority to the synced phones, like was possible in earlier versions. My wife's Android phone always connects first, even when I drive away with my iPhone in the car (plugged in no less), and she is in the house. I have to go through a number of steps to get mine connected. It's ridiculous that you eliminated a feature that is so critical.
2.) When all seatbelts are fastened, turn off the notification on the instrument cluster, so I'm not required to hit 'OK' every time I drive. This is the most annoying feature of the vehicle, and will prevent me from EVER purchasing a Lincoln (or Ford) vehicle again!
3.) Update Blue Cruise software regularly. I understand it takes a lot of testing to certify an update on each vehicle, but GM is releasing updates to SuperCruise much more often. I'd be fine with an update every 6-12 months, but I will ABSOLUTELY not pay for a software subscription service that doesn't get regular updates.

Not addressing these three items will move me back to buying GM vehicles. This is my first, and likely my last Lincoln, due to these very minor, but extremely annoying issues.

For what it’s worth, the seatbelt fasten notification does go away without hitting OK. It takes about 20 seconds of driving. Still super annoying I agree!

 

[Xarax]

Oh wow. I had no idea if you select “Pure EV” it would not stay in that all electric mode. That definitely is going to make me rethink the GT Corsair. Thank you for sharing that.

It is just a momentary change when extra power is needed. I consider it a safety feature and would not want it removed.

 

[greerl]

Oh wow. I had no idea if you select “Pure EV” it would not stay in that all electric mode. That definitely is going to make me rethink the GT Corsair. Thank you for sharing that.

Because the GT is maybe only 99% EV you're going to assume you know better than the design engineers and reject the PHEV? Makes no sense. Even if your driving circumstances requires more ICE time than mine, you still get the EV performance and much improved urban mpg. My overall mpg is currently 59.6 versus what would outerwear be low 30s at best.

 

[GreatOutdoors]

Because the GT is maybe only 99% EV you're going to assume you know better than the design engineers and reject the PHEV? Makes no sense. Even if your driving circumstances requires more ICE time than mine, you still get the EV performance and much improved urban mpg. My overall mpg is currently 59.6 versus what would outerwear be low 30s at best.

Not saying I know more than the engineers Nor rejecting the GT. Just said I would have to consider/rethink and investigate more because I have made assumptions that aren’t correct. Still interested in PHEV — seems like ‘25 could be last year it’s available based on what I’ve read? Thanks for sharing your mpg.

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[ArizonaJon]

Driving around town and a few short trips, I have had 76% of the miles on electricity. Since I also have solar power for most of my electrical needs, I get my energy for more than three fourths of my driving for free. I don't notice any change when the gas engine starts. (I also have a BEV and the driving is very similar except with the BEV I can do one pedal driving.)
Prior to the GT I had a 2022 Reserve. The start/stop function was annoying. With the GT it is very smooth. FYI, you cannot turn off start/stop on the GT.

 

[Xarax]

Lincoln executives have been watching this community for years. They've also made improvements to their vehicles based upon what they've read here. They are listening to you.

This discussion will serve as a quick and easy way for Lincoln executives to gauge interest and help make decisions moving forward.

As a Corsair driver, you should state exactly what you'd like to see enhanced, added, and/or omitted from your Lincoln Corsair.

Any posts that don't stick to the subject matter will be moved elsewhere.

One other feature which most other cars have is that the app on the phone can control locks, and even start the car via WiFi. Lincoln app only allows Bluetooth connection. You have to be close to the car and it is not nearly as convenient as a WiFi link. I had a relatively inexpensive Chevy which I could start the car while I was in my office and by the time I reached the car it was toasty in cold weather. If my Lincoln is connected to WiFi (which it is) why can't the Phone app connect to the car via WiFi??

 

[bbf2530]

One other feature which most other cars have is that the app on the phone can control locks, and even start the car via WiFi. Lincoln app only allows Bluetooth connection. You have to be close to the car and it is not nearly as convenient as a WiFi link. I had a relatively inexpensive Chevy which I could start the car while I was in my office and by the time I reached the car it was toasty in cold weather. If my Lincoln is connected to WiFi (which it is) why can't the Phone app connect to the car via WiFi??

Hi Xarax. Are you discussing PAAK (Phone As A Key) or the LincolnWay app?

The LincolnWay app allows remote starting, locking/unlocking etc.
And those features are available via WiFi and/or a cell/data connection.
The LincolnWay app does not need a Bluetooth connection.

And WiFi is not even necessary, as long as a cell/data connection is available to both the vehicle and phone.

So with the LincolnWay app, we can start our vehicle, lock/unlock it etc. from the other side of earth, as long as the phone and vehicle have a cell/data (and/or WiFi) connection. The vehicle does not even need to be connected to WiFi. Only able to receive a cell/data signal.

If your LincolnWay app is fully connected properly to your vehicle, but not operating properly, there is an issue which needs to be addressed.

Keep us updated and good luck.

 

[Xarax]

Hi Xarax. Are you discussing PAAK (Phone As A Key) or the LincolnWay app?

The LincolnWay app allows remote starting, locking/unlocking etc.
And those features are available via WiFi and/or a cell/data connection.
The LincolnWay app does not need a Bluetooth connection.

And WiFi is not even necessary, as long as a cell/data connection is available to both the vehicle and phone.

So with the LincolnWay app, we can start our vehicle, lock/unlock it etc. from the other side of earth, as long as the phone and vehicle have a cell/data (and/or WiFi) connection. The vehicle does not even need to be connected to WiFi. Only able to receive a cell/data signal.

If your LincolnWay app is fully connected properly to your vehicle, but not operating properly, there is an issue which needs to be addressed.

Keep us updated and good luck.

I do have PAAK, but I was just wanting basic functions like door lock, Being able to start and warm the car would be great too. My phone most definitely does not connect to my car via WiFi with my cell phone nor by any other cell phone means other than Bluetooth. Never has, and I have had the car for about 13 months. I am guessing it is supposed to connect via WiFi by your comment. Mine does not even though the car is connected to my home WiFi network. A quick search of the owner's manual does not describe any method to connect the app to the car via WiFi. I am using an iPhone 14.