Fake Engine Noise Generator Disable - Lincoln Aviator!!

[Big Lebowski]

I took my 2023 Aviator for a short test drive yesterday just hours after it was delivered to the dealership and honestly never noticed the sound so I guess I've gotten used to it. The only time it really, really bothered me was when I was on a side street that had many cross streets and a stop sign at every intersection.

Peter

So glad yours has FINALLY come in.

 

[peterk9]

So glad yours has FINALLY come in.

Thank you. Only took 11 months. I hope to pick it up on Monday after they get the prep done. Didn't notice any damage and the mileage was 76 km (47 mi.) due to the attached sticker that said it had undergone testing.

Peter

 

[inmanlanier]

I took my 2023 Aviator for a short test drive yesterday just hours after it was delivered to the dealership and honestly never noticed the sound so I guess I've gotten used to it. The only time it really, really bothered me was when I was on a side street that had many cross streets and a stop sign at every intersection.

Peter

Congrats, Peter. You'll have to give us a comparative synopsis of the old vs. new.

 

[Aviator Pilot]

New to the forum. I purchased a used 2021 Aviator Reserve a few weeks ago. I have just about every option possible including air suspension and like the vehicle very much. I've wondered about the active noise cancel. I don't have intrusive engine sound but road noise sound isn't any better than the Acadia I was previously driving. I have the 22" wheels and maybe this is the reason for extra road noise. After seeing all the reviews about the quiet cabin I'm a little disappointed. Definitely a nit pic. The 28 speaker sound system is fantastic. I can drowned out anything that bothers me.

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[peterk9]

^^ Welcome to the Forum.
I have the 20" on mine and don't notice the road noise much. It will be a little quieter once my winter tires are removed next week.

Peter

 

[EcoBrick Bob]

If your 22" wheels are fitted with Goodyear Eagle Comfort tires, that could be the problem.

 

[Aviator Pilot]

I do have the Eagle tires. I have 20k miles on the car and it looks like plenty of tread left. These tires do ride rough and have me thinking about going to 20" wheels when it comes time for new rubber. I am not crazy about big rims and low profile tires.

 

[Big Lebowski]

I have the ‘22’s and they ride just fine to me, but to each his own. My DD 7-8 months out of the year is a C8 Corvette so the Aviactor rides like a pillow by comparison. (The C8 is really smooth TBH)

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[Pioneer4x4]

My 21"s ride fine, but daymn, I'm not looking forward to replacing them!
And I'd love to turn off the fake noise, if you check my earlier post in this thread, my wife said it sounded like out 2019 Volvo S90 T8 with the 2.0 4cyl, and its fake pumped in noise. And I agree, sounds EXACTLY like it at times.

 

[EcoBrick Bob]

I have the ‘22’s and they ride just fine to me, but to each his own. My DD 7-8 months out of the year is a C8 Corvette so the Aviactor rides like a pillow by comparison. (The C8 is really smooth TBH)

I have 2 C7 Vettes and both have Mag Ride. I also have non-run flat tires on them (Michelin PS4's) One has a DSC Ride controler that I have adjusted to ride quite soft. Other has GM $$$ programming to soften ride in E & T. When I have tracked them, I ovbviously set ride and handling to stiffest settings.

My Aviator issue was with the Goodyear 22"s. We drove our Explorer ST with 20" Michelins 100+ miles to pick up new Aviator. As soon as we got up to Interstate speeds on Florida's smooth roads, I noticed the Goodyears caused our Aviator to wander, requiring lots of steering input. If the wheel/tire combo didn't weigh 80+ lbs a wheel, I would have installed summer Max Performance tires on the 22"s. Saving 120 lbs of unsprung rotating mass makes an unbelieveable difference in handling and stopping.

 

[Aviator Pilot]

I should maybe rephrase "rough ride". The ride is smooth but I can hear the tires hitting every imperfection in the road. It's like those old tricycle solid rubber tires from my long ago childhood. I don't feel it that much but I certainly hear it. This is the disappointment for me in the cabin. All the reviews spoke of the remarkably quiet cabin and that is not true for my car. I also think one of my front tires may be slightly out of balance. I can feel a little vibration through the steering wheel at certain speeds. I want to blame it on the road surface.

 

[peterk9]

Let's see if we can get this thread back on track and post about the thread's subject title.
There is one on the 22" Goodyears for anyone wanting to continue on that topic. Aviator 22" Goodyear Touring tires
Thanks.

Peter

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[Aviator Pilot]

I don't really notice fake engine noise. Maybe I'm not getting on the gas enough. Maybe it's drowned out by road noise. Or could it be that the noise cancellation system is not working in my car. How would I know?

 

[moose66]

I think the Revel takes care of all noise in my ride. Whether it be fake or real!

 

[LSC]

I'm so interested in figuring out the Forscan values for the ANC. I got the windows app and the ODB Link EX. But i'm lost when it comes to reading the As-Built stuff.

 

[Jbeau27]

I am really curious if anyone has every driven in a vehicle where the ANC (active noise canceling) has been disabled. In reading the description of it posted on this thread, it sounds a little wonky, picking up on noises and so sending out vibrations at lower frequencies to combat it. I just wonder if the cabin would be just as quiet without it. I am obviously trying to justify losing it so that I can get rid of that fake engine noise generator. I know we've hashed this out already, but I primarily drive on side roads in and around town, and the acceleration noise really takes away from the "sanctuary" of the vehicle, which was the number one reason I purchased the car. Do you think if I asked the dealer to disable the ENG, (and thereby the ANC) I could take it for a spin, and have them put it back if I were disappointed? Or am I living in la la land? Thank you all! (My husband got laid off since my purchasing the vehicle so my monthly payment feels like that much more of a splurge, and I'd like to be 100% happy with the vehicle. I already had to have it in the shop for a week for the display going whacky, and that was at only 3 k miles. I am at 6,000 miles now.)

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[peterk9]

I believe the acceleration noise you hear are the turbos. I have the same vehicle and previously had a 2020 and both have the same sound upon acceleration. Once up to speed, the noise is gone. I doubt the dealer would mess with it as they usually decline to do to any changes to the factory programming.

Peter

 

[bbf2530]

I am really curious if anyone has every driven in a vehicle where the ANC (active noise canceling) has been disabled. In reading the description of it posted on this thread, it sounds a little wonky, picking up on noises and so sending out vibrations at lower frequencies to combat it. I just wonder if the cabin would be just as quiet without it. I am obviously trying to justify losing it so that I can get rid of that fake engine noise generator. I know we've hashed this out already, but I primarily drive on side roads in and around town, and the acceleration noise really takes away from the "sanctuary" of the vehicle, which was the number one reason I purchased the car. Do you think if I asked the dealer to disable the ENG, (and thereby the ANC) I could take it for a spin, and have them put it back if I were disappointed? Or am I living in la la land? Thank you all! (My husband got laid off since my purchasing the vehicle so my monthly payment feels like that much more of a splurge, and I'd like to be 100% happy with the vehicle. I already had to have it in the shop for a week for the display going whacky, and that was at only 3 k miles. I am at 6,000 miles now.)

Hi Jbeau27. Just as an FYI: The process would actually be to disable ANC (Active Noise Cancellation), which would then disable the synthesized engine sounds. Not the other way around.
I know it may seem like arguing semantics, but it is an important distinction for those trying to understand the process.

The synthesized engine sounds are designed to make up for the muffling effect that turbochargers have on an engine exhaust (in real life, as opposed to boy racer “Fast and Furious”movies).

Okay, that being said: ANC essentially works by monitoring certain frequencies of road/tire etc. noise, and cancelling those noises/sounds by producing sound waves on the opposite end of the sound spectrum and broadcasting them through the vehicle speakers. These synthesized engine sounds are only produced during acceleration, and vary in volume according to drive mode chosen, rate of acceleration etc.
I realize you probably already understand this, but the information may help others who do not.

So yes, if you disable ANC in order to eliminate the synthesized engine sounds, the passenger compartment will be slightly louder under most driving situations (other than acceleration).
In my case, I thought about disabling ANC in my MKZ, but decided eliminating the little bit of synthesized engine sound (which only occurs under “spirited” acceleration) was not worth the louder cabin under all other driving situations. And like you, I also wish the engine sounds were easily driver configurable to be enabled/disabled. My opinion only, of course.

I’m not so sure how successful you will be in finding a Lincoln/Ford Service Department willing to disable the factory setting. Especially on a vehicle still within the New Vehicle and/or Powertrain Warranties. However, it never hurts to ask.

Keep us updated and good luck.

 

[EcoBrick Bob]

I have a Borla Exhaust on my 2023 Reserve. The sound of the Borla is nearly identical to the simulated sounds, only louder. It's most noticeable when starting the car when it's in our garage. Since it's the quieter of the 2 available Borla exhausts available, when on the road, you only hear it when you accelerate. The synthesized sound must be based on a recording of Twin Turbo V-6's as it sounds like a weak version of the Flex Twin Turbo V-6 I had years ago that was equipped with a modified Magnaflow exhaust.
Even with the Borla, our Reserve is much quieter at 70 mph than our stock leased 2020 Explorer ST. I do agree that one should be able to turn it off as I assume most Aviator owners are not interested in engine/exhaust noise.

 

[G-858090]

I have a related but unrelated noise question. I recently bought a used 2022 Aviator and asides the grumbling dieseling engine noise, when I go above 40km/hr there is a noise in the rear of the vehicle that sounds like a climate zone fan.
I have turned off all fans and the noise is there. Is this potentially an air suspension noise? It’s quite annoying, I like a quiet cabin except for when I have music on.
Thank you