2024 Lincoln Navigator tire problems

[Brittowens]

Exactly my position as well.

Apparently from following this thread, there are varying levels of vibration issues. At my current level I am willing to attempt to work through tire/wheel changes to see if it improves over time. The fact that it has improved from initial delivery at least gives me hope?

They put 2 brand new sets of pirelli tires on mine didn’t fix it and then put Michelins on it and didn’t fix it so it’s for sure not a tire issue. Mine just hit 3,000 miles and it’s not getting better. I had a loaner for 5 weeks with 5,000 miles on it and it did the exact same thing

 

[THMills]

We seem to be having problems with the Perelli tires on the new Navigators, all the ones we've road tested seem to be shimmying real bad at speeds over 60 MPH, just curious if anyone else had experienced this problem

I’m having the same issues with a brand new 2024 navigator equipped with Perelli tires! Have you resolve your issue and how?

 

[THMills]

Please keep us updated on the findings by the field service advisor. good luck!

Was the Ford field service engineer, able to resolve the vibration issue in your navigator and if so… How?

 

[alandrew3]

No one has resolved this issue, hence the thread and continued additions.

The Pirelli tires are a fine tire. There is debate about the General Grabber tires being crap and thus worth swapping off. It has also been suggested to change rim sizes to a smaller rim and larger tire sidewall to absorb more.

Or ultimately you get rid of the car and try something else - Going to a Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade is a popular decision, but one with its own risks as there are numerous reports of engine failure in the L87 V8 from GM, but thats another topic in itself.

I am going to take mine to an independent tire shop and have them road force balance my rims again... just to see how well Lincoln did it. If that doesn't do anything, then its back to the dealer for me and I'm going to push for them to inspect other areas of the car - motor mounts, drive shaft, etc. Anything that produces rotational inertia that could add in vibrations. I'm going to also request all adapts shocks to be inspected, and maybe a reset of the system in itself to see what that can do. Lincoln sells the Navigators ride as adaptive via camera (scans to road ahead and adjusts the dampening based on the scan)... perhaps there is an issue there.

I am fortunate to be in a position that I can allocate time to figure out what the FK is wrong with these 100k+ cars, but eventually I will run out of patience and get rid of the damn thing.

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[Brittowens]

No one has resolved this issue, hence the thread and continued additions.

The Pirelli tires are a fine tire. There is debate about the General Grabber tires being crap and thus worth swapping off. It has also been suggested to change rim sizes to a smaller rim and larger tire sidewall to absorb more.

Or ultimately you get rid of the car and try something else - Going to a Tahoe/Yukon/Escalade is a popular decision, but one with its own risks as there are numerous reports of engine failure in the L87 V8 from GM, but thats another topic in itself.

I am going to take mine to an independent tire shop and have them road force balance my rims again... just to see how well Lincoln did it. If that doesn't do anything, then its back to the dealer for me and I'm going to push for them to inspect other areas of the car - motor mounts, drive shaft, etc. Anything that produces rotational inertia that could add in vibrations. I'm going to also request all adapts shocks to be inspected, and maybe a reset of the system in itself to see what that can do. Lincoln sells the Navigators ride as adaptive via camera (scans to road ahead and adjusts the dampening based on the scan)... perhaps there is an issue there.

I am fortunate to be in a position that I can allocate time to figure out what the FK is wrong with these 100k+ cars, but eventually I will run out of patience and get rid of the damn thing.

When mine was in the shop for 5 weeks they checked the drive shaft, motor mounts, pretty much everything on the car and said nothing was wrong with it. That’s when engineering came back to them in a email which I have a copy of pretty much stating they know they have issues and it’s under investigation but as of right now there is no fix for it so they are just labeling it a characteristic of the vehicle. The dealership pretty much said there is nothing else to look at or do that I needed to pick my car up so that’s what we did. Now I just drive around a car that aggravates me every time I drive it

 

[ColonelColt]

"Nothing was wrong with it" can simply mean everything they checked was within specs. That doesn't mean the specs are correct. Driveshafts and other parts of the driveline have specs...but what if the specs are not tight enough? A vibration can mean things are within specs but the vibration is still there.

The way I see it the engineers need to revisit the specs to determine whether they should be tightened with roper quality control inspections for issuance. That costs money...and maybe Ford is ok with the specs as-is as a cost saver. What we don't know is how many owners are complaining about vibrations? If the percentage of complaints is within a certain accepted number they can more or less ignore the problem as an acceptable number of complaints.

 

[Brittowens]

"Nothing was wrong with it" can simply mean everything they checked was within specs. That doesn't mean the specs are correct. Driveshafts and other parts of the driveline have specs...but what if the specs are not tight enough? A vibration can mean things are within specs but the vibration is still there.

The way I see it the engineers need to revisit the specs to determine whether they should be tightened with roper quality control inspections for issuance. That costs money...and maybe Ford is ok with the specs as-is as a cost saver. What we don't know is how many owners are complaining about vibrations? If the percentage of complaints is within a certain accepted number they can more or less ignore the problem as an acceptable number of complaints.

It seems the more research that I do the more I see people complaining about the same issue. It seems to be an issue across the board with the 2024 Navigators

 

[FlightBlue24]

Finally after 2 weeks at the dealership. Tires and wheels both swaped out to black Rims and pirelli scorpion. No change in vibrations. Actually the vibrations have spread out over different speed ranges now.
I was told by service manager that Lincoln has just issued service recall to replace all the general tires to either pirelli or hankook and get rid of saucer shaped alloys. Atleast some acknowledgement from Ford/Lincoln.
However immediately I got the car I called dealership back and they asked to come back.
At this point, im thinking these possibilities.

1. Change and replace Lug Nuts and associated torque.
2. Possible issues with transmission
3. Recalibrating adaptive suspension.
4. Brake rotor issue.

The vibrations are very high pitched and feels like you are driving on the rumble strips all the time.

Any ideas would be appreciated and we can all write to Lincoln to have service recall issued

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[alandrew3]

Update - I took mine to an independent tire shop (Discount Tire in the DFW area). I requested they road force balance all 4 tires. The manager stated it is better to check the tires initially before attempting a full on dismount/remount of the tires and balance (lower costs). So they checked all 4 tires, and guess what? All four were out of balance. This is after Lincoln has supposedly RF Balanced them already. His explanation was bad techs, poor calibrated equipment at Lincoln, or both...

I have pictures of all 4 tires specs, and 3/4 tire RF numbers were below 20. One did come in at 36, but the machine estimated that after a RF balance it would be around 27, so not much of an improvement. However, each rim was out of balance between 0.5 oz of weight to 1.75 oz of weight... so no wonder I still felt vibrations.

Discount rebalanced all 4 tires, put the highest RF number tire in the rear, and I will admit its quite a bit of a noticeable improvement in the ride. City speeds is significantly better, high was better but due to my area the road isn't that great so not a good test road. I'll drive it around more over the next few days to see how it feels. Cost was $22 per tire, so $88 total for the balance. I'm happy I went in to have them checked, and I felt it was worth the cost to ensure correct balancing (under $100).

What concerns me more is how much out of balance they were after Lincoln did its thing... who knows if it was human error, lack of skill, or faulty equipment. Either way, I would recommend to anyone having issues to find a reputable tire shop (Discount Tire is fantastic imo) and have them check yours out. Ask what equipment/machines they have to test and balance with, and see if they are willing to show you the numbers. At this point, I wouldn't trust the dealer to properly balance tires/rims. Take it to a shop that solely focuses on tires and see what they say and can do.

 

[FordLincolnEnthusiast]

My new 2023 Navigator had the Pirelli tires and I hated how they rode; I changed them out immediately for Michelins and the rough ride was instantly gone and the road noise much much quieter. There is a big market for those 22" Pirellis, I sold my used ones on facebook markeplace in a bidding war, lol. Good riddance.

Also did the same with my new Mustang GT that came with Pirellis - hated them. Replaced with Michelin and I am riding happy.

 

[FlightBlue24]

So after Road force balancing and having specs for force balancing between 15-21. I would say there was some improvement. Interestingly I found out that alignment was off. I don't know how much does that contribute to vibrations.
DIscount or America Tire in California know what road force balancing and match mounting actually means.
Here are the details of technical service bulletin which can be found on Lincoln Canada website.
At this point, will take it down to another dealership to have this technical service bulletin addressed.

 

[ColonelColt]

Alignment doesn't affect vibrations outside of increased tire wear will throw the tire's balance off at an increasing rate. Depending on how much the alignment is off this may not even be noticeable.

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[C Krohn]

I’ve been shopping for tires and I noticed the Discount Tire now does alignments in some of its stores. I’ve always been a believer in getting an alignment with new tires.

 

[Mindy]

So here's the update as of 2/24/25. They kept my vehicle for 6 days. Based on my Lincoln app it was driven 3 miles during the 1st two days when the engineer was supposed to show up. There is no way to get to highway where you can do 70 mph in 3 miles but I guess I'll have to go with what the dealership is telling me. The dealership said that the Ford engineer said there was nothing wrong with my vehicle. I asked for the Road Force numbers and they said that they can't print them out from the machine and don't keep those numbers written down. They said it was "within normal limits" They told me to pick up my vehicle on 2/20/25. I asked if they'd fixed the HomeLink visor and the 3 prong plug and they said, "No." I explained this was the 3rd time the vehicle had been in the shop with those issues so they kept it 4 more days and called me this morning and told me I could pick up my car. When I picked it up I asked if they had replaced the visor and fixed the plug and they said, "No, the engineer checked them out and they were fine." I explained again that they had sent a service agent out to my house who spent 90 minutes trying to connect my HomeLink to my garage door opener and gate opener and was unsuccessful after I had spent 60 minutes trying to do it myself. The service agent at the house had said the HomeLink visor was broken. Guess they're sending someone out again to try to connect my HomeLink.

Here's the summary of what I know. I've driven two loaners since I purchased my lemon and they BOTH have the same issue...significant vibration through the driver's side seat and steering wheel at 75+ mph. Planet Lincoln has not fixed the problem after 6 visits and 10 days without my vehicle in the last two months. A friend of the family who is a mechanical engineer said this is not a tire or wheel issue as the vibrations are coming through the seat as well as the steering wheel. He thinks its a drive train or motor mount issue. I went to the doctors and he diagnosed new onset carpal tunnel syndrome secondary to excessive vibration. Encouraged me to get a steroid shot into my hand. He warned me about progressive worsening and the possible need for surgery in the future. Ford Legal has not weighed in and told me what they are going to do about my lemon. The State of Texas Department of Motor Vehicles has sent me acknowledgement of my filing. They too are going to have to wait on Ford Legal's response. It does seem like we've got more identified owners with the exact same problem. I'm guessing we're pretty close to the correct number for a class action lawsuit since it doesn't appear that any of the dealerships have resolved the issue with the seat and steering wheel vibration.

I own a 2015 Navi and we have had these same issues. In fact I have record of 18 tires replaced and they think that is normal or the faulty tires. In 2022 we put all 4 brand new tires and they are again all chopped up looking and car pulls and vibrates. Mind you we do not live on a gravel road and have a concrete drive way and parking. This has been a continuous problem and Lincoln has fraud the tire companies on getting new tires under warranty when their vehicle is causing this to happen. We have now had Michelin and Good year tires and happened to all of them. I drive my car to and from school and very minimum driving daily. I bought my car used with a Lincoln certified guarantee. My car vibrates at a very slow speed in the school zone or on the highway. My tires again are all chipped out. From reading this thread this seems to be a huge problem and Lincoln has to know about it.

 

[Vics 2024 Black Label]

Wow, wonder what happened to the 2024 models. I have never had this on my 2022. Hope it gets resolved for y'all.

I don`tknow my 2024 has been perfect i`ve only had it for 3 months but I have never felt any vibrations at all,so there not all bad!

 

[Mindy]

I don`tknow my 2024 has been perfect i`ve only had it for 3 months but I have never felt any vibrations at all,so there not all bad!

Give it time. Mine with new tires did not feel it either but after time it will start coming back.

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[alandrew3]

I really think the roads you drive on are a big factor. When I took mine to Florida, driving on those asphalt roads you wouldn't notice or even think about a ride/vibration issue. Yet, when I returned to DFW, the concrete roads (as well as the poorly maintained highways in Louisiana and Mississippi) I immediately noticed the increase in road feedback. Concrete roads in DFW are not completely flat/smooth (poured in sections for expansion and settling) and are a harder surface than asphalt. It may be why so many around DFW drive air ride equipped GM vehicles to get the best ride possible on our roads.

 

[FirstNavie]

I really think the roads you drive on are a big factor. When I took mine to Florida, driving on those asphalt roads you wouldn't notice or even think about a ride/vibration issue. Yet, when I returned to DFW, the concrete roads (as well as the poorly maintained highways in Louisiana and Mississippi) I immediately noticed the increase in road feedback. Concrete roads in DFW are not completely flat/smooth (poured in sections for expansion and settling) and are a harder surface than asphalt. It may be why so many around DFW drive air ride equipped GM vehicles to get the best ride possible on our roads.

I agree on the road surface, but on thing to consider, is your vibration harmonica meaning does it start to be noticeable at a specific speed and it's it something always felt (same vibration pattern). I bought a 2024, manufactured in September of 2023, and the SUV did have flat spots on the tires (they were Pirelli, if you were wondering). I would feel a vibration start around 20 mph and the seats would shake it was that noticeable. After all four ties were replaced I thought it did have some vibration but as I took Ubers around town, I noticed vibrations in those cars especially around the roads close to my house. I also had a rental, that was a 2025 Aviator and that had similar road feel in seat and on the wheel. I even had the whole suspension and alignment checked out and the problem was in the seat (me). I live in the south, with 100 plus temperature in summer, and the roads are likely uneven because of heat and tractor trailers making the road surface over time uneven. I now have Hankook ties and the dive is good, every once in a while I will get worked up about it but settle on I am being too sensitive and live in a hot place.

 

[mceagle]

If the vibration is felt through the steering wheel…it’s from the front tires. If felt through the floor…it’s from the rear.

All tires have a high spot just as all rims have a high spot…part of the manufacturing process. Occasionally the high spot on the tire gets mounted on the high spot on the rim and an exaggerated vibration occurs. If the tire or tires that has the vibration can be determined the tire(s) can be broken down and rotated on the rim and be rebalanced.

Tires can be checked for roundness…any tire shop should have the gauge. If a tire is out of round it can be shaved but the appropriate correction is to be replaced under warranty. It’s also possible a rim is out of spec and needs replaced. Sometimes rotating tires can identify the source.

Do NOT shave tires! Check the tires for radial and lateral run-out as well as wheels. Modern tire building all be eliminates this. Some tires do escape the uniformity check. OE's have stringent specs and requirements.

 

[mceagle]

My new 2023 Navigator had the Pirelli tires and I hated how they rode; I changed them out immediately for Michelins and the rough ride was instantly gone and the road noise much much quieter. There is a big market for those 22" Pirellis, I sold my used ones on facebook markeplace in a bidding war, lol. Good riddance.

Also did the same with my new Mustang GT that came with Pirellis - hated them. Replaced with Michelin and I am riding happy.

Which Michelins did you go with?