Lights on approach

[bbf2530]

I'll bite. How can it happen (unless the key or phone is left in the car as described above)?

Hi Rasherms00. Okay…here is one example. We can alter the small details in related ways for the same result:

First, keep in mind that the mirrors do not unfold until the vehicle is unlocked, the driver door is opened and then closed.

So…here is one example. We get out of our vehicle and lock it. The mirrors fold. We walk away.

At some/any point later on, we decide to go out to the vehicle to drive away. Or maybe just get something out of the vehicle.

We use the key fob to unlock it from the house, a store, or even as we are walking up to it. Or use the LincolnWay app etc. to unlock it. Or place our hand on the unlock sensor, but don’t actually pull the handle to open the door.
The vehicle is now unlocked. Mirrors still folded.

However, before we go out to the vehicle, or before we walk up to it and open the door, or before we actually pull the door handle to open the door, our attention is diverted and we go back into the house/store etc. to get something. Or just don’t open the door. For whatever reason.

Our attention is diverted, we don’t go back out to the vehicle for whatever reason. We forget we unlocked the vehicle, so we don’t lock it with the fob, PAAK, LincolnWay app etc.

The vehicle is now unlocked and the mirrors are still folded, because the driver door was never opened and subsequently closed.

So the vehicle is now sitting there, unlocked, with the mirrors still folded.

That is one example, detailing various scenarios how it could happen.

Add to that scenario this one: Having the unlock button accidentally pressed while in our pocket, in a pocketbook etc.
No one realizes it. No one opened the drivers door. We look out the window or across a parking lot, see folded mirrors, think the vehicle is locked but it’s not.

Are these scenarios likely to happen often to most drivers. No, not likely. But they can and have happened. So it is just good to know and keep in mind it can happen and we should keep in mind that folded mirrors are not a 100% guaranteed signal that the vehicle is locked.

Of course, if we have any doubt, we can avoid all this by just using the key fob, PAAK or LincolnWay app to ensure the doors are locked.

Hope that is written somewhat understandably.

Good luck.

 

[angore]

I confirmed that I get a light show when I approach with fob when it is unlocked. I could see this as a good thing since it lights up garage.

 

[Jacyte]

Embrace works on mine also when its unlocked.

 

[angore]

I will add the distance to activate is around 15 ft. The master bedroom is about 20 ft away (if a bird flies through several walls) where I keep the key when not in use and not seeing any activations at that distance.

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[peterk9]

Embrace works on mine also when its unlocked.

So I stand corrected. Unlike my 2023 Aviator, it seems the 2024 Nautilus does not have to be locked to activate the Embrace feature. I don't suppose there is an option setting for that other than turning the feature ON or OFF. I agree with DanJr that this is an unnecessary drain on the battery, no matter how briefly the lights are on.

Peter

 

[Jacyte]

So I stand corrected. Unlike my 2023 Aviator, it seems the 2024 Nautilus does not have to be locked to activate the Embrace feature. I don't suppose there is an option setting for that other than turning the feature ON or OFF. I agree with DanJr that this is an unnecessary drain on the battery, no matter how briefly the lights are on.

Peter

If the BCM is working correctly the embrace feature will disable if battery voltage drops below a threshold. It also deactivates after so many consecutive wakes within a timeframe. The people with battery drain issues are not experiencing intended system operation. It is the software not going to sleep when it is supposed to. So far mine has worked correctly. Embrace deactivates after so many times (i often pull the car out of the garage and work on projects with the key in my pocket).

 

[swindler]

I thought someone said in another thread that if the vehicle does not see a corresponding keyfob or door action occur after repeated 'embraces' that it will shut down and go to sleep.

 

[peterk9]

I thought someone said in another thread that if the vehicle does not see a corresponding keyfob or door action occur after repeated 'embraces' that it will shut down and go to sleep.

The manual makes only a brief reference to this feature and it isn't very informative in my opinion. Page 114.

To conserve power, the system may not work if:
• The 12-volt battery is low.
• The system was triggered 10 times prior to starting the vehicle.
• The vehicle is left unused for a few days

Peter

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[swindler]

It also deactivates after so many consecutive wakes within a timeframe.…Embrace deactivates after so many times (i often pull the car out of the garage and work on projects with the key in my pocket).

I should have read this closer, and should have known @Jacyte would cover it.

 

[bbf2530]

I thought someone said in another thread that if the vehicle does not see a corresponding keyfob or door action occur after repeated 'embraces' that it will shut down and go to sleep.

Hi swindler. Just to be clear…after a set number of approaches with a key fob etc., the Lincoln Embrace will no longer activate. I don’t recall at the moment how many that is.
It’s noted in the Owners Manual. Perhaps 5.

Yes. In a properly operating Lincoln vehicle, that is correct.

Good luck.

 

[DanJR]

So I stand corrected. Unlike my 2023 Aviator, it seems the 2024 Nautilus does not have to be locked to activate the Embrace feature. I don't suppose there is an option setting for that other than turning the feature ON or OFF. I agree with DanJr that this is an unnecessary drain on the battery, no matter how briefly the lights are on.

Peter

Thanks everyone. Peter, thank you for validating and confirming that the 24 Nautilus welcome lighting comes on even when the car is UNLOCKED. Dan

 

[peterk9]

Hi swindler. Just to be clear…after a set number of approaches with a key fob etc., the Lincoln Embrace will no longer activate. I don’t recall at the moment how many that is.
It’s noted in the Owners Manual. Perhaps 5.

Yes. In a properly operating Lincoln vehicle, that is correct.

Good luck.

I checked the 2024 manual and was not able to find anything on the number of attempts/approaches before the feature disables. I searched on the words "welcome" and "approach" and "Embrace". Only the first 2 words produced results which took me to page 114. Details are limited.
Maybe someone will have better luck.

Peter

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[bbf2530]

I checked the 2024 manual and was not able to find anything on the number of attempts/approaches before the feature disables. I searched on the words "welcome" and "approach" and "Embrace". Only the first 2 words produced results which took me to page 114. Details are limited.
Maybe someone will have better luck.

Peter

Hi Peter. Or an owner can approach until the Lincoln Embrace illuminates, then retreat until the Lincoln Embrace extinguishes.
Repeat that until it stops lighting up, then report back with how many times it takes.

I believe my MKZ is 5.

Good luck.

 

[Houtex]

So I stand corrected. Unlike my 2023 Aviator, it seems the 2024 Nautilus does not have to be locked to activate the Embrace feature. I don't suppose there is an option setting for that other than turning the feature ON or OFF. I agree with DanJr that this is an unnecessary drain on the battery, no matter how briefly the lights are on.

Peter

Maybe it’s just another bug in a newly released vehicle.

 

[angore]

A similar scenario is just opening the door while pff/ On the first open after turned off, the whole system comes alive (center display). After opening and closing the door repeatedly (like when packing the car), less comes on. Eventually, little comes on the displays.

I plan to bring my battery tender home to see how long it takes to top off.

My guess it would be around 3 months after the previous big update since there is usually some cadence for rolling out the code.

 

[angore]

I was packing the car for a trip so opening rear hatch and doors multiple times. Everytime I opened anything I get the light show (dash welcome and exterior lights come on)and sometimes a mechanical noise like something is priming. I might as well leave everything open while loading.

I did discover options on autolamp so can reduce time on when doors are closed, etc.

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[peterk9]

I was packing the car for a trip so opening rear hatch and doors multiple times. Everytime I opened anything I get the light show (dash welcome and exterior lights come on)and sometimes a mechanical noise like something is priming. I might as well leave everything open while loading.

I did discover options on autolamp so can reduce time on when doors are closed, etc.

In reading your post, I immediately thought, why not leave the doors open? The Battery Saver program should turn everything off after 10 minutes if it works the same as in most other Ford/Lincoln vehicles.
Note: I just checked the manual and it just says "a short time" instead of 10 minutes like some others.

Peter

 

[angore]

Yeah. That is what I was considering. I also did a lock test with fob and it locked it from a longer than expected distance.

 

[G-412008]

This is 2024 Nautilus Reserve

My lights under the side mirrors never light up.

 

[peterk9]

My lights under the side mirrors never light up.

Other than that, does the Embrace (Approach) Lighting work?
The mirror lighting could be a completely different issue. Have you taken the vehicle to a dealer to have it checked out? Possibly a fuse?

Peter