2024 Nautilus in snow?

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I have tried the 63.4 mm rim on a 24 Nautilus and they do not fit. It was from here that ford was advised of there error for wheel listing and they rectified it with the new size As I spoke about earlier 71mm. See your dealer for updated info. This is the wheel Part # from Ford for the 19 x 8 inch painted Aluminum wheel for winter tires.
R2TZ1007AWSP I have them on Order since April 27 . Should be available in the Fall.
 
This does not list the bore, but here are 19" 2024 Nautilus wheels for sale with the rear stamping showing 60mm offset.

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Linc 24 said:
As I mentioned the stamping is directly on the wheel. I have many Ford vehicles and I checked all my wheels and the all have the offsets imprinted on everyone in you know what you are looking for. Every model has different offset specs. I mentioned all the models on the C2 platform but I did not state that all the offsetts were the same. My vehicle came with the 21" rims. a vehicle with the 20 or 22inch rim nay be slight difference say 65 offset or 60. I dont know there numbers specifically. I chose to go with the 19 inch for my Winter rim as that is what Ford has created with the specific tire size previously mentioned. The 24 Nautilus has a unique hub backspacing and this is why the enginnering chose the corresponding offset.
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Hi Linc 24. I’m quite familiar what to look for. And I have owned nothing but Ford, Mercury and Lincoln vehicles, since my first new car in 1976 (not that past vehicle ownership proves either of us wrong or right). 😉
So…from personal experience, not all Lincoln/Ford wheels and/or other automakers wheels have the stampings.
And I did not state you said that all C2 platform vehicles utilize the same offset. But since you brought them up, I researched the offsets to demonstrate they are far different than +70mm.

Also, as an FYI, to avoid confusion for others: Various wheel diameters on a particular vehicle (i.e. 19”, 20”, 21” etc.) does not usually affect offset on a particular vehicle.
It is changes in wheel width (i.e. 8”, 8.5”, 9”) which may/will affect offset.
Of course, there can be outliers, so nothing is impossible.

Again, please understand I am not saying you are definitively wrong. I am simply stating that a 70mm offset on a road going CUV would be very unusual, that there is little information out there, and asking if you or anyone else can provide any links to verify the information.

On a related note for others, here is an explanation of offset and what + versus - offset does: https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/what-is-wheel-offset?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI05rU6Pr6hwMVfm5HAR1ELAJUEAAYASAAEgJAkPD_BwE&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI05rU6Pr6hwMVfm5HAR1ELAJUEAAYASAAEgJAkPD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!354820921610!e!!g!!positive vs negative offset&gclsrc=aw.ds&gad_source=1

A +70 offset would tuck the wheel far more towards the brakes/calipers/suspension etc., than the more common ~40mm-~50mm offsets.

You may very well be correct. Or I may be. But no one here should take anonymous Internet buying advice from either of us. Or anyone else. I don’t think anyone would argue with that.
EDIT- Or as “swindler” posted while I was typing this reply…we may both be well-intentioned but incorrect, and the truth may be somewhere in between. 🤓

Again, I am not stating you are wrong or looking for an argument, only wondering if there was some sort of official verification (I could not find any yet), so we are sure to provide accurate information to those looking for aftermarket wheels.

So to avoid an endless debate with no verification, I will wait until someone can find and provide official information.

I understand your point of view and hope you understand mine. And thank you for keeping the discussion polite.

Good luck. 🍻
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swindler said:
This does not list the bore, but here are 19" 2024 Nautilus wheels for sale with the rear stamping.

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Hi swindler. Thanks for the photos!

Just to clarify though: I did not state there are no “stampings” on the backs of wheels. Yes, there are usually some combination of part numbers, engineering numbers etc.
Then sometimes or even often there may/will be various wheel specs such as some or none of offset, width etc.
(i.e. the “ET60”, denoting offset as you stated in your earlier reply).

What I was stating is that specs are not always stamped on the back of wheels, as earlier replies could be read to infer.

Sorry for any confusion, and good luck. 🍻
 
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Hi swindler. Thanks for the photos!

Just to clarify though: I did not state there are no “stampings” on the backs of wheels. Yes, there are usually some combination of part numbers, engineering numbers etc.
Then sometimes or even often there may/will be various wheel specs such as some or none of offset, width etc.
(i.e. the “ET60”, denoting offset as you stated in your earlier reply).

What I as stating is that specs are not always stamped on the back of wheels, as earlier replies could be read to infer.

Sorry for any confusion, and good luck. 🍻
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To be clear, @bbf2530, I wasn't disputing whether or not there were stampings. I was just confirming that the offset agrees with other listings I've seen (and noted). I think the most curious aspect is the incongruity of the bore size, which again, I've often seen listed as 63.4, but @Linc 24 appears to have discovered it's not???
 
swindler said:
To be clear, @bbf2530, I wasn't disputing whether or not there were stampings. I was just confirming that the offset agrees with other listings I've seen (and noted). I think the most curious aspect is the incongruity of the bore size, which again, I've often seen listed as 63.4, but @Linc 24 appears to have discovered it's not???
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Hi swindler. Yes, I understand. I was not sure if you misunderstood my intent, so was only clarifying.

And your photos were very helpful, as they offer us relatively official information concerning the correct offset, at 60mm. Assuming they are 2024 Nautilus wheels, as the seller listed (sorry, I’m a relative cynic when it comes to sellers and what they post as being accurate). 🤓

Thank again and good luck.
 
I read somewhere that 114.3×5 is common bolt pattern for Changan. Although not uncommon for Ford/Lincoln, it makes me wonder if that influenced the change for the Nautilus? 🤔
 
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Got this from my dealer. Prices are in CDN
 

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Surprised that Lincoln is advising 18 inch, for snows on the Nautilus. As the smallest tire it comes with as standard is 19 inch. That being the case I can use my 18 inch Blizzaks from my 21 Nautilus
 
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Do these winter tire packages ever go on sale the closer we get to winter season? Should I just wait to pick up winter tires?
 
They usually do not go on sale during peak times before winter however sometimes tire manufactures offer up to $100 sales incentives on a set of 4. Typically the longer you wait there is less selection and size availability.
 
I noticed NONE of the tires mentioned in the Canada dealer list would be able in my tire size.
 
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I noticed NONE of the tires mentioned in the Canada dealer list would be able in my tire size.
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I think that is because Lincoln is suggesting the 18 inch tires for this car. Same as the spare we all have. This was stated early in this thread by Linc 24 I believe.
They were also suggesting 18s for the 2016- 23 Nautilus.
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How does that affect speedo accuracy?
 
Can’t answer that one. Someone else to chime in.
Is the accuracy affected by the fact some are built with 19s all the way to 22 for the jet package.
 
Lincolnguy2 said:
Can’t answer that one. Someone else to chime in.
Is the accuracy affected by the fact some are built with 19s all the way to 22 for the jet package.
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I was told the diameter of all the factory tires were the same...like 31 inches.
 
angore said:
I was told the diameter of all the factory tires were the same...like 31 inches.
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Kind of an interesting story. On one of our tracking products, we were using the GPS position results to calculate miles driven. We found that it matched the odometer to within 6-7%, which seemed rather poor. I had hoped for better.

After further study, we discovered the odometer wasn't that accurate — in part because of the variability in tire diameter. Just the wear from a new tire to a fully worn tire of the same brand would change the diameter enough to alter the odometer readings by 5%.
 
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