'24 Nautilus Hybrid Owners With > 800 Miles and No Engine Problems?

[markfm]

On another thread (2024 Hybrid Nautilus (Engine Problems)) it looks like > 5 hybrid owners have had significant engine problems pop up after relatively low miles driven, some within the first week of ownership, some after several weeks.

There was a recent (in the past week) Lincoln Special Service Message (SSM), 52432, about engine damage or drivability failures that may be due to injector issues.

Has anyone driven their new Hybrid a significant number of miles with no engine issues? (I titled this with 800 because @Larryp319 reached that mileage before something bad happened, "An Injector tip broke off into my motor causing the damage. ").

 

[JMAB]

On another thread (2024 Hybrid Nautilus (Engine Problems)) it looks like > 5 hybrid owners have had significant engine problems pop up after relatively low miles driven, some within the first week of ownership, some after several weeks.

There was a recent (in the past week) Lincoln Special Service Message (SSM), 52432, about engine damage or drivability failures that may be due to injector issues.

Has anyone driven their new Hybrid a significant number of miles with no engine issues? (I titled this with 800 because @Larryp319 reached that mileage before something bad happened, "An Injector tip broke off into my motor causing the damage. ").

Knock on wood…. We have 937 on our Reserve II Hybrid and have challenges with the usual software bugs and front brake noises but have not experienced any engine issues.

We absolutely love this car so far, minor first year stuff aside, and wouldn’t go back to our 22 Naughty for anything.

 

[markfm]

Knock on wood…. We have 937 on our Reserve II Hybrid and have challenges with the usual software bugs and front brake noises but have not experienced any engine issues.

We absolutely love this car so far, minor first year stuff aside, and wouldn’t go back to our 22 Naughty for anything.

Hopefully multiple others will report back similar no-problem status. I really would like to order a Hybrid, loved it when I test drove one last week, but I may need to be patient, order a '25 instead of a '24, if the problem turns out to be really widespread.

(Replacing a major chunk of the engine should have Lincoln's attention, I'd expect they'll make sure that the '25s don't have this problem.)

 

[Houtex]

Hopefully multiple others will report back similar no-problem status. I really would like to order a Hybrid, loved it when I test drove one last week, but I may need to be patient, order a '25 instead of a '24, if the problem turns out to be really widespread.

(Replacing a major chunk of the engine should have Lincoln's attention, I'd expect they'll make sure that the '25s don't have this problem.)

The prudent thing would be to wait for the 25s. Why take a chance now? The 25s will probably have most things ironed out and maybe some extra goodies. I do love the car but knowing everything I know today, if I hadn’t bought one, I would wait it out. Of course , you could also wait another month or two and see how things shake out.

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[JMAB]

Hopefully multiple others will report back similar no-problem status. I really would like to order a Hybrid, loved it when I test drove one last week, but I may need to be patient, order a '25 instead of a '24, if the problem turns out to be really widespread.

(Replacing a major chunk of the engine should have Lincoln's attention, I'd expect they'll make sure that the '25s don't have this problem.)

Yes, on your last point, swapping out either the block or entire ICE component cost should have their attention for 24’s first.

We weighed the options of ICE or Hybrid and Hybrid won for efficiency, power and smoother drive experience.

 

[markfm]

The prudent thing would be to wait for the 25s. Why take a chance now? The 25s will probably have most things ironed out and maybe some extra goodies. I do love the car but knowing everything I know today, if I hadn’t bought one, I would wait it out. Of course , you could also wait another month or two and see how things shake out.

Yes, I'm thinking of doing a '25 order in early May, so with any luck it'll be available end of this year or early next.

Nothing else I've heard about sounds bad, mainly what I'd consider normal software tuning things, and I believe Lincoln is making a good start on that area.

(Bonus, I can tell DW I agree on getting a '25 instead of the first MY )

 

[Nautilus Jim]

Over 1000 miles and no problems. 2024 model is the second year for the Nautilus - it was released in China a year before it arrived in North America. There has been a bad batch of fuel injectors. There are North American dealers unfamiliar or unwilling to complete all of the over 180 steps to prep the vehicle or adequately charge the batteries. There are battery issues due to the lengthy delays inherent to transporting vehicles from China. There are a plethora of owners unable to integrate their iPhones with the Nautilus native android operating system.
This wait till 2025 mentally is not in and of itself a solution, IMO. Dealers must prep the vehicles properly, delivery times need to be decreased, and owners should read their manuals.
However, if I were to have any problems during my upcoming 1200 mile trip, I maybe singing a different tune and will share.

 

[Jacyte]

The prudent thing would be to wait for the 25s. Why take a chance now? The 25s will probably have most things ironed out and maybe some extra goodies. I do love the car but knowing everything I know today, if I hadn’t bought one, I would wait it out. Of course , you could also wait another month or two and see how things shake out.

There is little to no chance the 25s with have anything new. More likely have multiple features removed. It’s almost sure they will not have active park assist. I would not be surprised if the spare becomes an option too.

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[markfm]

There is little to no chance the 25s with have anything new. More likely have multiple features removed. It’s almost sure they will not have active park assist. I would not be surprised if the spare becomes an option too.

I'd expect MY2 to be the same, but fixes implemented, or maybe add one or two simple new things.

What's your basis for "multiple features removed" on year 2 vehicles? I haven't run across that as a common practice, though maybe I've just been lucky.

 

[Jacyte]

I'd expect MY2 to be the same, but fixes implemented, or maybe add one or two simple new things.

What's your basis for "multiple features removed" on year 2 vehicles? I haven't run across that as a common practice, though maybe I've just been lucky.

Recent History of Ford/Lincoln has almost always refined manufacturing cost on new/updated models on year 2. Also it’s been announced that active park is being removed from the other Lincoln models.

 

[Werhand]

On another thread (2024 Hybrid Nautilus (Engine Problems)) it looks like > 5 hybrid owners have had significant engine problems pop up after relatively low miles driven, some within the first week of ownership, some after several weeks.

There was a recent (in the past week) Lincoln Special Service Message (SSM), 52432, about engine damage or drivability failures that may be due to injector issues.

Has anyone driven their new Hybrid a significant number of miles with no engine issues? (I titled this with 800 because @Larryp319 reached that mileage before something bad happened, "An Injector tip broke off into my motor causing the damage. ").

1,100+ with no engine issues on the hybrid. Had to take it in for infotainment issues, but a reset of a couple of modules and that seems to be working fine again. Love the car overall, nag alerts can be over the top at times.

 

[CliffDiver]

My hybrid is up to 1756 miles with no sign of engine issues so far.

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[Jacyte]

My hybrid is up to 1756 miles with no sign of engine issues so far.

That's crazy.. I have 1755 right now on my hybrid also. No problems at all.

 

[RetiredGuyinFL]

The Ford North American chief already announced the Active Park Assist will be dropped as their data shows it is very rarely used. Ford has already deleted the engine covers on all models and engines (subject of another thread on this forum). Ford is also dropping the keyless entry keypad on multiple models, which has a been a unique Ford distinguishing feature for a long time. The 23 Nautilus deleted one of the 12V power points. The 24 Nautilus no longer has the lighted front door threshold. All manufacturers, not just Ford, develop a list of "cost reductions" to improve margins. Common industry practice. At the same time, other teams work on fixing and implementing solutions to problems experienced.

 

[Nautilus Jim]

I'd expect MY2 to be the same, but fixes implemented, or maybe add one or two simple new things.

What's your basis for "multiple features removed" on year 2 vehicles? I haven't run across that as a common practice, though maybe I've just been lucky.

2024 is MY2.

 

[markfm]

2024 is MY2

The hybrid engine problem feels more like an MY1 type of thing, or a heck of a bad batch of parts. Also I've read at least one post mentioning that the China version has a less powerful engine, couldn't tell whether that was an ICE-only Nautilus or a Hybrid (or whether they even have the Hybrid).

Similarly the infotainment stuff is more like MY1 in terms of glitches. Another thread mentions things a China video shows work on their Nautilus, but apparently don't on the US.

This is just my take, I don't disagree that some version of the updated Nautilus released before the US.

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[LBCChet]

I'm so appreciative of these forums. I really want the Nautilus to be my next car, but I am definitely on hold for a bit to see how the software and hybrid engine issues shake out. Starting to consider the '25 Aviator as an alternative.

Until then I'll keep driving my '16 CMax/Energi that has had zero, yes zero problems.

 

[markfm]

For me the Nautilus Hybrid ticks all my checkboxes (though I'd still like the roof rails, the Premiere 1 w/19" tires is otherwise spot-on for me).

The software I'm truly not tense about, literally only this recent Hybrid engine pop-up problem is a concern.

 

[Jacyte]

The hybrid engine problem feels more like an MY1 type of thing, or a heck of a bad batch of parts.

Similarly the infotainment stuff is more like MY1 in terms of glitches. Another thread mentions things a China video shows work on their Nautilus, but apparently don't on the US.

This is just my take, I don't disagree that some version of the updated Nautilus released before the US.

Its sounds more like typical direct injection issues to me. You will have some failures due to the sensitivity of direct injection. Fuel contamination including water can cause the injector to come apart. Its not limited to the nautilus. Diesel guys have been fighting that war for a long time. Just search up direct injection injector failure and you will find tons of issues from every manufacturer.

Also the Chinese variant might not even run android automotive since the play store is very limited in China. They might run another OS with a hypervisor and the Lincoln digital experience on top. There is very little information about it available for some reason.

 

[RetiredGuyinFL]

LBCChet, Probably a smart move waiting a year. Many of the issues that some -- not all -- 24 Nautilus owners are experiencing sound like deja vu from the launch and intro of the completely new 2020 MY Explorer and Aviator built at Chicago Assembly. Many and complex design, manufacturing and quality control problems. Many storage lots filled with "build and hold" SUVs. Many lemon law buy-backs of those that had been sold. A full court press resolved all those issues and subsequent model years have been much improved, like two different cars. The mild update of the 2023 MY Escape and Corsair at Louisville Assembly had a milder case due to a major software issue with the new Sync 4. From October 2022 Job 1 until April 2023, cars were not being shipped to dealers until the issue was resolved and implemented. At least that bug was discovered before any shipments had been released to dealers. New cars are becoming more and more computers on wheels. The Alphabet/Google designed Android Automotive OS is a major, and for me disappointing, change for Ford and Lincoln. First year buyers will have to live through the debugging and coming updates.