What are your likes and dislikes concerning the Lincoln Corsair?

[Pabaldeagle]

I wish Lincoln would tell us what the modes do. BMW has a means of adjusting the braking to regen more or less.

Conserve appears to be Pure EV (use electric first) but with less aggressive acceleration and more aggressive deceleration/regen braking. I outlined the modes here and don't have much new info.

 

[NJRonbo]

I wish Lincoln would tell us what the modes do. BMW has a means of adjusting the braking to regen more or less.

Conserve appears to be Pure EV (use electric first) but with less aggressive acceleration and more aggressive deceleration/regen braking. I outlined the modes here and don't have much new info.

I am thinking Conserve gives you the best gas mileage with a combo of both gas/electric. However, once the electric is drained then all bets are off. This would be most beneficial on trips that are just outside of the available EV mileage.

Would I be correct in that assumption?

 

[GapBoyPCS]

I wish Lincoln would tell us what the modes do. BMW has a means of adjusting the braking to regen more or less.

Conserve appears to be Pure EV (use electric first) but with less aggressive acceleration and more aggressive deceleration/regen braking. I outlined the modes here and don't have much new info.

Lincoln has a few videos on it, but they don't get into details. Most drive modes I've seen and used are variations on shift points, throttle response, and suspension tubing (if there is an element of adaptive suspension in the mix).

 

[Pabaldeagle]

Conserve gets me the best mileage, even if I still have EV range thanks to its slower acceleration. For example, I have a commute road that goes from 25 to 55MPH. I set cruise control in the 25 zone, then it reads the 55 sign and let it accelerate the car. It does so with moderated torque and rarely kicks in the ICE so as long as I and the cars behind me can tolerate accelerating like a Prius, I enjoy better MPG. I also hit cancel on the cruise when I see a red light way up ahead and the aggressive braking slows me down, generating more charge than it would in Normal mode. I've heard this style of driving (which I do because I'm cheap) called by a more elegant term; hypermilling.

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[bbf2530]

Hi gang. For those looking for an explanation of the different drive modes...According to the 2022 Corsair Owners Manual (directly copied and pasted):

DRIVE MODES
CONSERVE
Enables efficient driving. It helps to deliver
maximum fuel efficiency and helps to
increase driving range.

DEEP CONDITIONS
For crossing terrain that has deformable
deep, rutted surfaces such as mud, deep
sand or deep snow. Do not use on dry, hard
surfaced roads.

EXCITE
For sporty on-road driving. This mode
increases throttle response, provides a
sportier exhaust sound and steering feel,
along with quicker shifting. The suspension
could stiffen, with an emphasis on handling
and control. The transmission also holds
gears longer, helping your vehicle accelerate
faster when shifting gears.
Note: Sportier exhaust sound may not be
available depending on vehicle
configuration.

NORMAL
For everyday driving. This mode is a perfect
balance of excitement, comfort and
convenience. This is the default mode after
each ignition cycle.

PRESERVE EV - PLUG-IN HYBRID
ELECTRIC VEHICLE (PHEV)
Your vehicle runs the engine as needed to
save electric driving range for later use in
another drive mode. For example, you first
drive at high speeds on open roads where
engine operation is appropriate. Later, you
drive at low speeds in an urban area where
electric only is most efficient. See Plug-In
Hybrid Vehicle Operation (page 215).

PURE EV - PLUG-IN HYBRID ELECTRIC
VEHICLE (PHEV)
This mode provides an electric only driving
experience. Your vehicle could accelerate
more slowly, and the top speed could
reduce. For more power, you can temporarily
enable your engine at any time by using one
of the following methods:
• Press and hold the folder button on the
steering wheel when viewing the pure
EV information screen. Your vehicle
enables the engine as needed, and
returns to pure EV after several seconds,
or when the vehicle no longer needs the
engine.
• Press the accelerator pedal fully. A
pop-up message appears. Press OK on
the steering wheel to activate as needed.
Your vehicle could enable the engine if
system conditions require it. An engine
enabled message displays if this occurs. See
Information Messages (page 142).
Your engine could enable if the climate
control is in a defrost mode and the outside
temperature is cold. If the vehicle does not
need defrost, select a different climate
control mode to permit pure EV.
Your vehicle changes from pure EV mode to
normal mode when the vehicle electric range
is zero.
Note: When in pure EV mode, your vehicle
stays in this mode if there is all electric
driving range available and the system does
not fault.

SLIPPERY
For less than ideal road conditions, such as
snow or ice covered roads. Slippery mode
inspires confidence without taking away from
driving pleasure. Slippery mode lowers
throttle response and optimizes shifting for
slippery surfaces.
Note: Using slippery mode on dry hard
surfaces could produce some vibration,
driveline bind up, and potential excessive
tire wear as the intent of this mode is for
slippery and loose surfaces."

The above information can be found by looking in the Index under "Drive Modes" (go figure).

Hope this helps and good luck.

 

[NJRonbo]

Thanks, bbf! That confirms that Conserve offers the best fuel efficiency

 

[bbf2530]

Thanks, bbf! That confirms that Conserve offers the best fuel efficiency

Hi NJRonbo. Yes, that is correct. However, keep in mind the "Conserve" mode accomplishes this by (a simplified explanation): Altering the engine/trans programming to offer a less sensitive accelerator pedal, higher rpm upshift points etc. etc.

That means all things being equal...apples to apples...slower acceleration than in "Normal" or "Excite" modes.

Therefore, if the driver compensates for the slower acceleration by pressing the gas harder, they will defeat the purpose of Conserve Mode and see little to no difference.

In other words, it ain't magic, and if the driver wants better fuel economy, they still need to drive the car easy and slower.

Hope this explanation makes sense. Good luck.

 

[NJRonbo]

Hi NJRonbo. Yes, that is correct. However, keep in mind the "Conserve" mode accomplishes this by (a simplified explanation): Altering the engine/trans programming to offer a less sensitive accelerator pedal, higher rpm upshift points etc. etc.

That means all things being equal...apples to apples...slower acceleration than in "Normal" or "Excite" modes.

Therefore, if the driver compensates for the slower acceleration by pressing the gas harder, they will defeat the purpose of Conserve Mode and see little to no difference.

In other words, it ain't magic, and if the driver wants better fuel economy, they still need to drive the car easy and slower.

Hope this explanation makes sense. Good luck.

BBF,

Your explanations always make sense. You have a habit of being very concise with your replies and are one of the most helpful and friendly individuals on this forum. Thank you, as always.

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[kingdre]

One month in, about 400 miles on my 2022 Corsair Grand Touring, Flight Blue with Ebony interior. One big caveat here: my last car was a 2013 Outback which is a perfectly utilitarian, sensible vehicle with little in the ways of creature comforts. The Corsair is an astounding leap forward in performance, luxury and technology - so it's a night and day difference.

Likes - a few pertinent ones amongst the multitudes:
- the seats are incredible. Adjustable leg boosters are great, and overall I've found the seats comfortable and easy to adjust.
- Adjustable charging time - I plug it into the 240v when I get home from work, but it delays charging until after 10pm when the electrical costs are off-peak / cheaper.
- "Departure Time" pre-conditioning via the Lincoln Way app - when I get in the car in the morning, the cabin temp is already at 68 and on particularly cold mornings the heated steering wheel and/or seats are going
- The Revel stereo system is outstanding. I am lucky in that my car was delivered without any rattles/noises, and even with heavy bass the car doesn't rattle
- Ride quality - the adaptive suspension is buttery smooth, and the cabin is extremely quiet.
- Performance - Excite mode is zippy and responsive, and it's fun to really punch it when getting on the freeway or passing. I get that it's not an SQ5 or anything, but for me it's a huge upgrade.
- Aesthetics - gorgeous vehicle, inside and out. Proportionally the Aviator is nicer, and I find certain other SUVs to be generally more attractive (Volvo XC90, Ford Edge ST as examples) but this thing looks great.
- The bendy headlights that turn with you through turns. How cool is that?

Neutral:
- Accelerating, especially merging onto the freeway, in Pure EV mode is sluggish, but I wasn't expecting otherwise. Aside from that, I love cruising along silently and not using gasoline.
- Engine noise - I understand others' comments about the sound of the ICE when it kicks on. However it's still a lot quieter than the Subaru, so I'm not bothered by it, and only noticed it after seeing discussion on this forum. It's no biggie.

Dislikes:
- lack of wireless Apple Carplay (I may get that Bluetooth adapter that someone linked in another thread). In 2022 you should be able to stick your phone on the wireless charger and be able to use Spotify or Waze...
- Texting - how come I can only choose from one of 15 default responses?! My wife's 2017 Fusion allows her to dictate text messages, and my 2022 Lincoln is unable to do this? (Or have I just not figured it out yet?)
- No cupholders in the doors. Come on.
- Massage doesn't always re-set to original lumbar position when you turn it off. Then, the car doesn't allow you to press "1" while driving to return to the saved setting. So you have to manually click the lumbar buttons while driving to get the seat back to where you want it.

Overall I consider myself lucky in that the build quality seems fine - no squeaks or rattles and no obvious service issues. I love this car. Every time I drive it I think to myself, "holy sh*t I love this car."

I appreciate your review. Most people dont even KNOW the thigh extenders are there. however, there are cupholders in the front doors. I dont sit in the rear, so I dont know offhand about that area. Yes, Excite mode really is different. just a bummer on the gas mileage lol.

Vehicle conditioning? I LOVE IT TOO!! lol I dont text while driving unless I use my phone or knee or make G2 (suv) drive for me lol.

 

[NJRonbo]

Hey, saw something odd with my gas mileage and thought I would ask someone here who knows better than I...

So, I filled my tank. It read 300 Miles on full. I take it that means I have 300 miles till empty.

The electric was also fully charged.

Drove the vehicle in CONSERVE. It drained the electric completely first. Then, the final 14 miles it should have run on gas.

However, as I was driving, I noticed that 300 Miles went UP instead of down. By the time I drove about 14 miles it went from 300 to 302.

How did I gain gas mileage in the tank? Or am I just reading things wrong?

 

[JEEPGRADY]

Hey, saw something odd with my gas mileage and thought I would ask someone here who knows better than I...

So, I filled my tank. It read 300 Miles on full. I take it that means I have 300 miles till empty.

The electric was also fully charged.

Drove the vehicle in CONSERVE. It drained the electric completely first. Then, the final 14 miles it should have run on gas.

However, as I was driving, I noticed that 300 Miles went UP instead of down. By the time I drove about 14 miles it went from 300 to 302.

How did I gain gas mileage in the tank? Or am I just reading things wrong?

Because it is constantly updating the mileage based on your current driving habit. In other words, while you were driving this time, you may have been a bit lighter on the pedal.

 

[NJRonbo]

Because it is constantly updating the mileage based on your current driving habit. In other words, while you were driving this time, you may have been a bit lighter on the pedal.

Okay, so in addition to the MPG that is listed in the gauge cluster your gas tank indication level also increases when doing lighter driving?

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[bbf2530]

Okay, so in addition to the MPG that is listed in the gauge cluster your gas tank indication level also increases when doing lighter driving?

Hi NJRonbo. Yes, it is possible.

As JEEPGRADY stated, the Miles to Empty reading is constantly updating according to the driving environment at the moment. It is using an algorithm/algorithms which calculate average speeds, how hard you are driving, using AC or not using AC, ambient temperatures (part of driving environment), etc. etc. in order to give a pretty good calculation of how much fuel to empty. But it must constantly update by the second or else it will be inaccurate.

In your case, your vehicle used more electric power than usual, so less gas than usual, so the Miles to Empty reading rose a bit because you drove XX miles on full electric. But it will begin to drop again once you are using the ICE , or driving harder, or using AC etc. etc.

An opposing example: If you were suddenly driving at 100 mph for an hour, you would see that 300 mile Miles to Empty reading drop like a stone, and get far less than 300 miles.

Or another example from the opposite end of the spectrum: Let's say you were sitting on the Garden State Parkway in dead stopped, bumper to bumper shore traffic.
The Miles to Empty reading will drop as you are sitting still, despite the fact that you are going nowhere. In an extreme situation, it is possible you could not move a single mile and watch the Miles to Empty reading go from 300 to 0 over the course of hours and hours. This example assumes Auto Stop/Start is turned off, of course...(I don't have it on my MKZ...lol).

Good luck.

 

[kingdre]

Conserve gets me the best mileage, even if I still have EV range thanks to its slower acceleration. For example, I have a commute road that goes from 25 to 55MPH. I set cruise control in the 25 zone, then it reads the 55 sign and let it accelerate the car. It does so with moderated torque and rarely kicks in the ICE so as long as I and the cars behind me can tolerate accelerating like a Prius, I enjoy better MPG. I also hit cancel on the cruise when I see a red light way up ahead and the aggressive braking slows me down, generating more charge than it would in Normal mode. I've heard this style of driving (which I do because I'm cheap) called by a more elegant term; hypermilling.

YES! I do some of that too! lol

 

[Voidoid]

Oh, one other dislike - those lumps at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel (with the talk button on the left side bump.) I've had my hands at 10 and 2 for 20+ years, and I still am not comfortable with the positioning of these. They're in the way and shouldn't be there.

It's like they were solving a problem that didn't exist - nobody really needs the talk button right where their thumb is at 10 o'clock.

 

[whatsupdoc]

Oh, one other dislike - those lumps at 10 and 2 on the steering wheel (with the talk button on the left side bump.) I've had my hands at 10 and 2 for 20+ years, and I still am not comfortable with the positioning of these. They're in the way and shouldn't be there.

It's like they were solving a problem that didn't exist - nobody really needs the talk button right where their thumb is at 10 o'clock.

OMG I LOVE the talk button where it's at! For me it's so much convenient than where it is on my 2020 Nautilus.

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[RedHoncho]

After I got my GT, I experimented with the various drive modes on an extensive road trip of 1800 miles. I can say that while Preserve EV was the least desirable mode. The ICE mode had slow response and the gas mileage was an abysmal 25.7 MPG. I typically drive in the Normal mode and enjoy a relatively quick response and very good gas mileage. I now am approaching 5,500 miles on the odometer and am averaging 42.5 MPG for those 5,500 miles.

 

[NJRonbo]

After I got my GT, I experimented with the various drive modes on an extensive road trip of 1800 miles. I can say that while Preserve EV was the least desirable mode. The ICE mode had slow response and the gas mileage was an abysmal 25.7 MPG. I typically drive in the Normal mode and enjoy a relatively quick response and very good gas mileage. I now am approaching 5,500 miles on the odometer and am averaging 42.5 MPG for those 5,500 miles.

Hey Red, I agree that Preserve EV is worthless. I don't get it. Burn more gas to gain electric? Why?

I wonder if conserve would do even better in the gas mileage, though basically all that does is use up all your electric first before switching over to ICE.

Thanks for the update

 

[RedHoncho]

Hey Red, I agree that Preserve EV is worthless. I don't get it. Burn more gas to gain electric? Why?

I wonder if conserve would do even better in the gas mileage, though basically all that does is use up all your electric first before switching over to ICE.

Thanks for the update

It doesn't gain electric either. It only maintains it at an 80% charge level. As far as I am concerned, that drive mode could be eliminated as it is one I will never use again.

I rarely if ever change the drive mode out of Normal as it is. I did use the Slippery mode this winter when there was heavy snow on the roads.

 

[nmbchemist]

After a month with my GT, I really dislike the button on the end of the turn signal stalk that controls the lane warning feature. I had an Outback with eyesight and the collision warning/lane warning etc features were turned on and off with a set of buttons on the dash to the left of the driver. When I bought it they were all turned on and I never touched them.

Also, the lane departure warning waits until you are half way into the next lane before the steering wheel vibrates.