Deep Sleep Mode.

[Minimina08]

My Corsair is in constant deep sleep mode. Had it serviced no issues found. After talking with dealership and Lincoln it seems I don't drive enough? Suggested option is trickle down charger. I don't want a car you have to plug in. I am upset with this issue. Any one have any other suggestions. I feel I should have been told this since I don't put many miles on my vehicle. I love the Corsair, but now what do I do?

 

[jdaniel6972]

Hi jdaniel. There is no "fix' is needed. Nothing is broken. If a vehicle is not driven for 14 days, "Deep Sleep Mode" is activated to help save the battery from going dead. It simply shuts down certain ancillary features, such as the ability to check vehicle location, tire pressures/oil life etc. via LincolnWay app. Would owners prefer the battery dies, just so they can check vehicle location, oil life/tire pressure on their phone while they are away? Would coming back to a dead battery be better?

Unfortunately, many owners do not fully understand what "Deep Sleep Mode" actually is. In most cases, all deep sleep mode does is save your battery from going dead when the vehicle is not used for a long period of time.

Other than that, there are no important features lost until we can get out to our vehicle and start it.

Some owners don't seem to understand that our vehicles going into "Deep Sleep Mode" is not a defect or flaw. It is a battery saving feature. For vehicles with both healthy and weak batteries.

Good luck.

All remote features, such as starting your vehicle from anywhere after it has gone into deep sleep mode are deactivated. That's one disadvantage. Second, after I finally got back to my vehicle, and started it up, I could no longer open any when the vehicle was locked. Thirdly, the vehicle is supposed to light up upon approaching it when it's locked. It no longer did that. Fourth, I constantly kept getting an error message just before I started my vehicle that said "either turn your vehicle on, or shut the engine off", or something to that effect. Even the dealership couldn't figure it out!
With the vehicle being just a year old, and only 4500 miles on it, the final solution was to put a new battery in it, and being about 100 miles to the nearest dealership, I ended up paying for it myself.
I will never buy another vehicle that has the deep sleep mode feature!!!
I've had many other Lincolns and Jaguars that have sat for months at a time, and never had a problem!!!
This was just my experience.... I'm not saying for some it's probably a good feature. Just not for me!

 

[Black Label]

@jdaniel6972, you should consider the scheduled start feature if you go long periods between drives.

 

[jdaniel6972]

@jdaniel6972, you should consider the scheduled start feature if you go long periods between drives.

Just starting the vehicle every 14 days, or even daily didn't work for me. I had to have someone come to the house and physically drive the vehicle just down the road and back every 12 or 13 days. I knew the exact time frame from the warning messages I received on the Lincoln app!

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[bbf2530]

All remote features, such as starting your vehicle from anywhere after it has gone into deep sleep mode are deactivated. That's one disadvantage. Second, after I finally got back to my vehicle, and started it up, I could no longer open any when the vehicle was locked. Thirdly, the vehicle is supposed to light up upon approaching it when it's locked. It no longer did that. Fourth, I constantly kept getting an error message just before I started my vehicle that said "either turn your vehicle on, or shut the engine off", or something to that effect. Even the dealership couldn't figure it out!
With the vehicle being just a year old, and only 4500 miles on it, the final solution was to put a new battery in it, and being about 100 miles to the nearest dealership, I ended up paying for it myself.
I will never buy another vehicle that has the deep sleep mode feature!!!
I've had many other Lincolns and Jaguars that have sat for months at a time, and never had a problem!!!
This was just my experience.... I'm not saying for some it's probably a good feature. Just not for me!

Hi jdaniel. Yes, those features I mentioned (forgot to mention LincolnWay remote start) are deactivated in Deep Sleep Mode in order to ensure the car will start when it needs to.

If a new battery solved your issue, or made it occur less often, then your battery was failing (it even happens with brand new batteries) and "Deep Sleep Mode did its job to avoid you coming home to a non-starting vehicle.
Again, in my opinion (but not yours, I understand), far better than coming home to a dead battery after a 14+ day trip, or not using the car for 14 days, or being caught with a dead battery in freezing cold temperatures with a weak/failing/failed battery etc. etc. (all reasons "Deep Sleep Mode is activated).

Concerning your 4 points that you consider to be disadvantages...I am aware of all of them, as I previously explained what "Deep Sleep"/"Battery Saver" are supposed to do. Plus, they are detailed in the Owners Manual and my car has them too. I guess the point is that your vehicle (and mine) is behaving normally, including:
- First...The deactivation of remote "starting your vehicle from anywhere".
- Second...This one is confusing, did you leave a word out? You "...could no longer open any when the vehicle was locked ...". You could no longer open any when... what?
- Third...Yes, the "Lincoln Embrace" lighting will deactivate in "Deep Sleep Mode". But it will only be deactivated that one time until the vehicle is started, then will return back to normal. At least until 14 days with no driving etc.
- Fourth...The "either turn your vehicle on, or shut the engine off" message is again, normal. It is simply a warning to let the driver know that the ignition is on, so either start the car or the system will shut down power in order to save the battery. Don't know why the dealership couldn't figure it out. It is also explained in the Owners Manual. That is their screw up.

Additionally, if the battery was dead and would not start the car, you could have called Lincoln Complementary Roadside Service and had the battery replaced.

Can't speak for your past cars, how old they were etc. However, virtually all new vehicles have some sort of "Deep Sleep Mode"/"Battery Saver" features, except for perhaps lower cost, entry level vehicles.

So although it is obvious you do not care for the feature, there is not much that can be done to avoid it in any make of new vehicle, since it is meant to help us.

You are probably only wanting to vent, and I am not arguing with what you like or don't like. You certainly have the right to that opinion.
However, I am only supplying this information so others do not think there is something wrong with their vehicles when "Deep Sleep Mode" is activated in those particular circumstances.

Good luck.

 

[RedHoncho]

Pop your hood open and look at the 12V battery. I have a 201 Corsair Grand Touring. The battery is the size of a golf cart battery. Remote starting your vehicle is one way to avoid the dreaded Deep Sleep Mode message as long as your vehicle isn't parked in a garage. When you do drive, make certain the ICE engages for a good amount of time too. Otherwise the 12V battery isn't charging.

Additionally, if the battery was dead and would not start the car, you could have called Lincoln Complimentary Roadside Service and had the battery replaced. I recently used Lincoln Complimentary Roadside Service. I found the process to be very easy and the response was fast.

 

[Black Label]

Just starting the vehicle every 14 days, or even daily didn't work for me. I had to have someone come to the house and physically drive the vehicle just down the road and back every 12 or 13 days. I knew the exact time frame from the warning messages I received on the Lincoln app!

I have had my Nav for 2 years and have travelled due to my job and been gone 4-5 days at a time. I think I have gotten the deep sleep message less than 5 times. So, perhaps there is an issue with yours. Hope you get it worked out.

As bbf said, probably difficult to buy a new vehicle these days without some sort of similar feature.

 

[jdaniel6972]

Hi jdaniel. Yes, those features I mentioned (forgot to mention LincolnWay remote start) are deactivated in Deep Sleep Mode in order to ensure the car will start when it needs to.

If a new battery solved your issue, or made it occur less often, then your battery was failing (it even happens with brand new batteries) and "Deep Sleep Mode did its job to avoid you coming home to a non-starting vehicle.
Again, in my opinion (but not yours, I understand), far better than coming home to a dead battery after a 14+ day trip, or not using the car for 14 days, or being caught with a dead battery in freezing cold temperatures with a weak/failing/failed battery etc. etc. (all reasons "Deep Sleep Mode is activated).

Concerning your 4 points that you consider to be disadvantages...I am aware of all of them, as I previously explained what "Deep Sleep"/"Battery Saver" are supposed to do. Plus, they are detailed in the Owners Manual and my car has them too. I guess the point is that your vehicle (and mine) is behaving normally, including:
- First...The deactivation of remote "starting your vehicle from anywhere".
- Second...This one is confusing, did you leave a word out? You "...could no longer open any when the vehicle was locked ...". You could no longer open any when... what?
- Third...Yes, the "Lincoln Embrace" lighting will deactivate in "Deep Sleep Mode". But it will only be deactivated that one time until the vehicle is started, then will return back to normal. At least until 14 days with no driving etc.
- Fourth...The "either turn your vehicle on, or shut the engine off" message is again, normal. It is simply a warning to let the driver know that the ignition is on, so either start the car or the system will shut down power in order to save the battery. Don't know why the dealership couldn't figure it out. It is also explained in the Owners Manual. That is their screw up.

Additionally, if the battery was dead and would not start the car, you could have called Lincoln Complementary Roadside Service and had the battery replaced.

Can't speak for your past cars, how old they were etc. However, virtually all new vehicles have some sort of "Sleep Mode"/"Battery Saver" features, except for perhaps lower cost, entry level vehicles.

So although it is obvious you do not care for the feature, there is not much that can be done to avoid it in any make of new vehicle, since it is meant to help us.

You are probably only wanting to vent, and I am not arguing with what you like or don't like. You certainly have the right to that opinion.
However, I am only supplying this information so others do not think there is something wrong with their vehicles when "Deep Sleep Mode" is activated in those particular circumstances.

Good luck.

Probably didn't finish my thought properly. When the vehicle is locked, I could go to any door, front, back, right, left, and the door would open. After the deep sleep mode thing happened, I could only use the driver's side door to get in. All the things I say occurred, did not get resolved until I had the new battery put in. This went on all summer, and even after I had the car brought to the dealership for them to fix it. When I got the vehicle back from the dealership, all the mentioned issue seemed to be fixed, and that lasted about 3 days, then they all didn't work again!
The new battery was the trick! I didn't mind paying for the battery myself. When it was suggested to me, I was able to get a new one put in the same day, no waiting!!!
I do appreciate your insight, and I don't want anyone to think every single vehicle with this feature will experience what I went through. Again, for most, it's a good feature!!!

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[bbf2530]

Probably didn't finish my thought properly. When the vehicle is locked, I could go to any door, front, back, right, left, and the door would open. After the deep sleep mode thing happened, I could only use the driver's side door to get in. All the things I say occurred, did not get resolved until I had the new battery put in. This went on all summer, and even after I had the car brought to the dealership for them to fix it. When I got the vehicle back from the dealership, all the mentioned issue seemed to be fixed, and that lasted about 3 days, then they all didn't work again!
The new battery was the trick! I didn't mind paying for the battery myself. When it was suggested to me, I was able to get a new one put in the same day, no waiting!!!
I do appreciate your insight, and I don't want anyone to think every single vehicle with this feature will experience what I went through. Again, for most, it's a good feature!!!

Hi jdaniels. Yes, a weak/failing battery will cause all sorts of issues in modern vehicles (especially in the last few years or newer).
And it will most definitely cause "Deep Sleep Mode" and/or "Battery Saver Mode" to be entered sooner and more often than when a fresh or full strength battery is in our vehicles.

I had similar, relatively quick "Deep Sleep Mode" message issues in my MKZ when the battery was failing towards the end of the first winter I had it. A new battery, covered under warranty, took care of it. No messages/issues the second, third or this winter so far. Even in sub-freezing weather.

However, although I am driving far less than in the past (currently <4,000 miles per year), due to working from home etc., I do drive it more often than the 14 day "Deep Sleep Mode" timer/criteria.

Hope you have many safe and enjoyable miles in your Corsair and good luck.

 

[heywardjr]

I have had my Corsair GT almost one month now and never seen the deep sleep mode. Now, I have always had a trickle charger on my 12 volt batteries in all my cars because I load them up with options and I have 24x7 car camera that records anything happening based on any movement around the vehicle. That alone means I have to power that camera system some how. The trickle charger covers that and all the other fancy stuff that are always live such as listening for key presses or iPhone Lincoln App sending a signal to tell me when the high voltage battery will be done charging at the hotel, etc.

If you don't drive often, then best and easiest answer is get a trickle charger. It's incredibly common particularly if you garage a car and have several cars at hand. In our case we're both retired and both have high end cars. Trickle charger works great always.

 

[Jack D]

My 2020 MKZ went into Deep Sleep Mode today and My Wife Drove it Yesterday. And now no Matter what we do, we cannot get it out of Deep Sleep mode.

 

[heywardjr]

Pop your hood open and look at the 12V battery. I have a 201 Corsair Grand Touring. The battery is the size of a golf cart battery. Remote starting your vehicle is one way to avoid the dreaded Deep Sleep Mode message as long as your vehicle isn't parked in a garage. When you do drive, make certain the ICE engages for a good amount of time too. Otherwise the 12V battery isn't charging.

Additionally, if the battery was dead and would not start the car, you could have called Lincoln Complimentary Roadside Service and had the battery replaced. I recently used Lincoln Complimentary Roadside Service. I found the process to be very easy and the response was fast.

Uh, something does not sound right here. I have a 22 Grand Touring and the 12 volt battery is not located under the hood. It’s located under the spare tire in the rear of the car.

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[Stevessvt]

My 2020 MKZ went into Deep Sleep Mode today and My Wife Drove it Yesterday. And now no Matter what we do, we cannot get it out of Deep Sleep mode.

My month old Corsair went in to deep sleep mode last week at my work, only 8 hours after I drove it.

 

[heywardjr]

My 2020 MKZ went into Deep Sleep Mode today and My Wife Drove it Yesterday. And now no Matter what we do, we cannot get it out of Deep Sleep mode.

Suggest getting a battery reconditioner that also does trickle charge as needed. These devices will wake up the battery and refresh it As well as recharge it to 100%. Sounds like the battery has gone dead. Might need replacement as several others on the forum have reported needing new batteries. If your car is a 2020 model, that means the battery may be 4 years old and due for replacement anyway. I would assume it's still under warranty.

 

[HBcorsair]

Makes me wonder if a different battery, ie Optima, would improve situation

 

[tgara]

Is this problem unique to BOZEVAs? I've not experienced a deep sleep mode in any gas powered vehicle

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[bbf2530]

Is this problem unique to BOZEVAs? I've not experienced a deep sleep mode in any gas powered vehicle

Hi tgara. Not a problem unique to electrics.

It will occur due to various factors. Some of those factors include (with Lincolns/Fords):
- The vehicle not being started/driven for 14 days.
- Colder weather. Especially freezing/below freezing temperatures.
- A vehicle only being driven sporadically and/or on shorter trips that will not properly charge the battery over time.
- A weak/failing battery, since it will not fully charge and drain/lose charge quicker. This will obviously signal the system to go into Deep Sleep Mode, which will turn off ancillary features, in order to save enough charge for a vehicle startup.

These are just a few of the contributing factors which can/will lead to Battery Saver and Deep Sleep Mode being activated.

So the short story is: Essentially, those of us who drive less often, drive shorter distances, live in colder climates, with older and/or failing batteries (even a new battery can fail), are more likely to encounter Deep Sleep Mode.

It is also explained in our Owner Manuals.

Not sure how long you have had your 2021 Nautilus. You may or may not eventually run into Deep Sleep Mode if your vehicle experiences any of the above experiences/environments. At the very least, you probably will when your factory battery begins to weaken and fail. More sooner/frequent Deep Sleep Mode activations will often be our first sign of a weakening battery. Unless we simply have a sudden, total failure.

EDIT - I would also add: This was a far rarer issue before the pandemic, when most vehicles were driven more often and further. Thus, keeping our batteries in a better/healthier state of charge.

Good luck.

 

[tgara]

Are BOZEVAs putting a dent in people's fuel bills?

 

[kingdre]

Are BOZEVAs putting a dent in people's fuel bills?

What is a BOZEVA?

 

[tgara]

What is a BOZEVA?

Battery Operated Zero Emission Vehicular Apparatus.

 

[bbf2530]

Battery Operated Zero Emission Vehicular Apparatus.

Hi tgara. Advance notice...I am not trying to be a wise guy here. Where did you hear of or come across the acronym "BOZEVA"? I Google it and come up with nothing much of substance other than "Bozeva" is a Bulgarian surname . BOZEVA - Google Search

Are you referring to a type of electric vehicle? It seems there are essentially 4 recognized types of electric vehicles: BEV, PHEV, HEV and Hydrogen Fuel Cell. types of electric vehicles - Google Search

Or does BOZEVA refer to some sort of electric "apparatus"?

I did not spend a lot of time looking, so it is certainly possible I missed something while researching. Can you point us to something explaining what a "BOZEVA" is?

Thanks and good luck.