Next Lincoln Navigator to drop V8 in favor of V6, but Ford Expedition might get both

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A great many buyers fled from full-size body-on-frame SUVs to car-based crossovers in large measure to save fuel. But that doesn't mean there's still not a buying audience for more traditional truck-based utility vehicles, and those consumers doubtlessly wouldn't mind saving some dollars at the pump, too. According to Motor Trend, those shoppers might be in luck.

That's because the magazine has confirmed that Ford isn't walking away from the full-size SUV segment, and it's poised to do something about its offerings' economy ratings, too. According to MT, global Lincoln director Matt VanDyke has hinted that the next Navigator may drop two cylinders and go with a V6 model - the current model gets just 14 miles per gallon in the city and 20 on the highway from its 5.4-liter V8. The obvious fitment would be Ford's 3.5-liter twin-turbo EcoBoost V6, an engine that has spread like kudzu throughout the rest of the Blue Oval's large vehicle lineup.

Downsized turbocharged engines like Ford's EcoBoost franchise have come under fire as of late for not delivering their EPA fuel economy ratings, but their benefits extend beyond consumption - the 3.5L offers superior power and a better torque curve than the naturally aspirated V8. MT also suggests that Ford's 3.7-liter V6 could form the base engine for the next Navi - it has similar horsepower but a lot less torque than the current 5.4L. That may be less of a problem with the next generation tipped to go on a diet, which could level the playing field somewhat.

Interestingly, Ford will reportedly keep a V8 option in the Navigator's Blue-Oval-badged sibling, the Expedition. That may be a strategy partially borne out of cost, and partially out of concern that the Expedition's more traditional buying audience still maintains a strong affinity for simple and robust V8 engines. That said, MT says the Expedition could also get the 3.7L and the EcoBoost 3.5 V6sNext Lincoln Navigator to drop V8 in favor of V6, but Ford Expedition might get both originally appeared on Autoblog on Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:28:00 EST. Please see our terms for use of feeds.
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I think this is fine for most buyers but I feel Lincoln should keep a V8 for those customers who want a bigger engine. A V6 Navigator doesn't sound very aspirational. Nor would a V6 Cadillac Escalade. It would still be an aspirational vehicle if there was a V8 that actually made the kind of power that today's V8s make (well over 400 horsepower). I'm sure Lincoln wouldn't sell that many of them but it could be sort of a halo vehicle for the brand the way the Escalade has been (it's actually the flagship) for Cadillac...
 
A V6??? :confused:

Here I was hoping they's put the newer 6.2L V8 in. :(
 
I wish they would import the turbo diesel tech they have had in Europe for years. More power, more MPG, no downside. In the meantime, a turbo six or even four is fine by me!

I think of 4 cylinder would have a hard time moving the huge Navigator. I bet you'd change your mind once you started driving it. Though some people really have no concern at all about acceleration or towing.
 
I was actually very amazed at the ecoboost 6 cylinder in the new F-150. My buddy brought one over to my house that he was test driving and that thing would boogey like no one's business. I still don't think a full-size truck ought to have a 6 cylinder in it, however. Many real world tests have shown the gas mileage is not really much better if at all with the supercharged 6's vs. the V8's. I'm old school so I like the sound of those rumbling 8-cylinders.
 
The old Ford 300 six cylinder was actually a much better truck motor than the 302 v-8. The 300 could get over 20 MPG in the right conditions in a full size truck or van, even when towing. I have had several Dodge vans powered by a 225 slant six engine and the motor was fine, even for light towing duty. So, I disagree with the assertion that six cylinder motors do not belong in a truck categorically.

That being said, I would never suggest a four cylinder for some behemoth like the Navigator, but I think a turbocharged six cylinder would be fine.

A turbocharged six cylinder, especially a modern diesel, wpudl have plenty of power for towing or motivating a big heavy vehicle. Passenger cars that don't or don't often tow would be fine with a turbo four cylinder motor. V-8s really are only necessary in big heavy vehicles that do large amounts of towing, or in vehicles that are purchased to boost their owner's ego.
 
How about a dual turbo 6.2L? Or the diesel out of the f250+ with a hi-po twist?

Seems like a step backward if it's available on the expedition. At least give people the choice. (I realize there are fleet limits to adhere to though). If this thing is supposed to be the flagship SUV, let it kick some ass.
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Seems like a step backward if it's available on the expedition. At least give people the choice. (I realize there are fleet limits to adhere to though). If this thing is supposed to be the flagship SUV, let it kick some ass.

It's yet another step backward for Lincoln. It proves that Ford thinks about it's core brand first and gives virtually no thought to Lincoln. They keep doing that and Lincoln truly will become a thing of the past.

As a premium brand, Lincoln is supposed to offer features that you cannot get on a Ford, not the other way around.
 
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