Has anyone here bought a previous Lincoln Aviator Buyback vehicle?

[DJODesigns]

I am considering buying a used Aviator Black Label; however, half of them seem to be Manufacturer Buyback vehicles. Do any of you have experience with this? If so have all the reported problems been solved or is the vehicle still faulty? I do not want to knowingly buy a lemon, but the dealership claims problems have been fixed.

 

[bbf2530]

I am considering buying a used Aviator Black Label; however, half of them seem to be Manufacturer Buyback vehicles. Do any of you have experience with this? If so have all the reported problems been solved or is the vehicle still faulty? I do not want to knowingly buy a lemon, but the dealership claims problems have been fixed.

Hi DJO. In all honesty, there is no way for us to know whether the problems that caused a "Manufacturers Buyback" were corrected or not. And the previous experiences of another owner who purchased a "Manufacturers Buyback" would have no bearing on the condition or future performance of the particular vehicles you are looking at.

Sometimes, or most of the time, they may be. However, there is always the chance the problem was not corrected.

When we purchase a used vehicle, we take our chances. When we purchase a previous "Manufacturers Buyback" vehicle, we really take our chances, because we know it had issues before. Plus, with it being used, you would not have any Lemon Law protections.

If you decide to go with a "Manufacturers Buyback", make sure you have your warranty protections clearly spelled out in writing and understood.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

 

[DJODesigns]

Hi DJO. In all honesty, there is no way for us to know whether the problems that caused a "Manufacturers Buyback" were corrected or not. And the previous experiences of another owner who purchased a "Manufacturers Buyback" would have no bearing on the condition or future performance of the particular vehicles you are looking at.

Sometimes, or most of the time, they may be. However, there is always the chance the problem was not corrected.

When we purchase a used vehicle, we take our chances. When we purchase a previous "Manufacturers Buyback" vehicle, we really take our chances, because we know it had issues before. Plus, with it being used, you would not have any Lemon Law protections.

If you decide to go with a "Manufacturers Buyback", make sure you have your warranty protections clearly spelled out in writing and understood.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.

I get it, I understand...I would just feel better if I knew others had been pleased with their decision.

 

[bbf2530]

I get it, I understand...I would just feel better if I knew others had been pleased with their decision.

Hi DJO. I completely understand. And I am sure any other members who purchased a Manufacturers Buyback will jump in to advise you.

Let us know how you make out and good luck.

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[moose66]

Are you buying from a Lincoln dealership? Either way, are they fulling disclosing what the issue was and what was the fix? You could always have an independent inspection done by someone not affiliated with the dealership. Should cost you about $125 dollars. They can visually inspect the vehicle, drive it, and run a check on the onboard computer for codes. They will then give you a inspection report. That may provide you with the answers you need to make your decision. Good luck!

 

[rjabend]

I would not recommend a buy-back. There are intermittent and other non-obvious problems that may not be apparent and there could also be degradation to some systems due to the past problems. If all the problems had been fixed, why was the vehicle bought back?

 

[moose66]

. . . . . . . . .If all the problems had been fixed, why was the vehicle bought back?

Could the problems been fixed but the customer still wanted out? When you are spending 70-90K for something, it better be right. Maybe Lincoln decided to save face and eliminate some of the noise by just allowing those who wanted out of their vehicle an opportunity to get out. Unless you are one of those who got out, the details of those transactions are unknown and will probably stay that way.

 

[rjabend]

Could the problems been fixed but the customer still wanted out? When you are spending 70-90K for something, it better be right. Maybe Lincoln decided to save face and eliminate some of the noise by just allowing those who wanted out of their vehicle an opportunity to get out. Unless you are one of those who got out, the details of those transactions are unknown and will probably stay that way.

If you had clear documentation showing that scenario, that would be a plus. Otherwise, you are rolling the dice.

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[DJODesigns]

I would not recommend a buy-back. There are intermittent and other non-obvious problems that may not be apparent and there could also be degradation to some systems due to the past problems. If all the problems had been fixed, why was the vehicle bought back?

My thought (or what has been proposed by the dealer) was that they have fixed it after they bought it back...just replaced car so that they could keep customers happy....

 

[DJODesigns]

Are you buying from a Lincoln dealership? Either way, are they fulling disclosing what the issue was and what was the fix? You could always have an independent inspection done by someone not affiliated with the dealership. Should cost you about $125 dollars. They can visually inspect the vehicle, drive it, and run a check on the onboard computer for codes. They will then give you a inspection report. That may provide you with the answers you need to make your decision. Good luck!

Thank you, that is a good suggestion.

 

[G-359996]

I just recently had my aviator bought back from Lincoln. I would never buy a buy back. My car had problems each different starting at 193 miles. My car was in the shop more than I had it. Not something you expect from a brand new vehicle regardless of the cost! Lincoln was great to deal with but I did have to prove my case. They aren’t just taking back cars to keep a good name for themselves. I loved my Aviator and was crushed to have to send it back. Despite how great Lincoln was to deal with and how beautiful their cars are you won’t catch me buying another let alone a buy back!

 

[G-952521]

I bought a 2022 buyback with 2k miles. Lincoln dealer had documentation of repair of front passenger door lock. It was replaced. Now I have a virtually new vehicle for a great price and full manufacturers warranty. Now 15k and not one problem.

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[G-73270]

The buyback program circumvents the "lemon law" provisions. I believe with the "lemon law" they have to get a lemon law title and disclose it at the sale.

 

[RedGeminiPA]

There are a LOT of 2020s out there with Lemon Law titles, simply because parts weren't available to fix them during the height of COVID. My mom's was a Lincoln buyback, which ended up being a Lemon Law buyback for the 2nd owner, all because there weren't any rear air shocks available to fix the problem in 2020. It had new rear air shocks installed after the LL buyback, and it's been perfectly fine since my mom bought it.

The big problem we had with the purchase was the lack of banks willing to finance one. She secured her own funding, and paid "cash" for it - $41,700 with 53k miles. The dealer gave her a great trade-in for her '19 Sierra Denali Ultimate. After paying that off, adding a 4/60 warranty, she wrote a check for $37k OTD.

 

[icemantx]

Our 2020 was bought back due to a long list of various issues (mostly electronic) that caused us to have the vehicle back to the dealer more than a dozen times in the 24 months we had it. After turning it back into the dealership in Houston, I located the vehicle as sold in Minnesota about 6 months after we turned it in. The listing did not note anything related to the vehicle being a lemon law title and I have no way to know if they disclosed that to the next buyer or not.

Personally, I would not risk tens of thousands of dollars on a lemon law turned in vehicle. Ours was full of gremlins that kept appearing and we were very happy to get rid of it.

 

[Juggernaught]

The 2021 Aviator I just purchased was a dealer buy back vehicle with 19k miles. It was priced about $7-10k less than a comparable '21 Aviator with similar equipment. The Ford/Lincoln dealership was upfront about the buy-back and gave me a detailed service history of the vehicle. The reason for the buyback was a check engine light that kept tripping due to a chafe in the wiring harness servicing the O2 sensors on the catalytic converters. The harness was replaced, and the check engine light hasn't reappeared. I figured that was a low-risk issue for which to purchase a buyback vehicle. It still has 16 months of the bumper-to-bumper warranty left plus the remainder of the drivetrain warranty. Time will tell if this was a good purchase, but I'm comfortable with it right now.

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[familyofcrowes]

I bought a 2020 lemon totle Aviator and love the car. But now I am trying to trade it in/sell it and because of the lemon title it is very hard to get anyone to take it. Trade in was quoted at 10k.... thats crazy. so Im trying to figure out how to get rid of it because I wanna buy a new Hummer EV....

 

[RedGeminiPA]

Our 2020 was bought back due to a long list of various issues (mostly electronic) that caused us to have the vehicle back to the dealer more than a dozen times in the 24 months we had it. After turning it back into the dealership in Houston, I located the vehicle as sold in Minnesota about 6 months after we turned it in. The listing did not note anything related to the vehicle being a lemon law title and I have no way to know if they disclosed that to the next buyer or not.

Personally, I would not risk tens of thousands of dollars on a lemon law turned in vehicle. Ours was full of gremlins that kept appearing and we were very happy to get rid of it.

If it was a manufacturer buyback, it will not have a branded title. Title branding only happens if it's a legal Lemon Law buyback. In most cases, in most states, a Lemon Law buyback can only take place during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles. Anything beyond that would most likely be a manufacturer buyback with no title branding.

Carfax will note manufacturer buybacks, as well as Lemon Law buybacks. My mom's has both showing on the Carfax for hers, as both took place.

 

[Action]

I bought a 2020 lemon totle Aviator and love the car. But now I am trying to trade it in/sell it and because of the lemon title it is very hard to get anyone to take it. Trade in was quoted at 10k.... thats crazy. so Im trying to figure out how to get rid of it because I wanna buy a new Hummer EV....

Instead of trading in the car. (selling wholesale)
Retail the car. You sell it.

BTW you should start a new thread not take over someone else's thread.

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[icemantx]

If it was a manufacturer buyback, it will not have a branded title. Title branding only happens if it's a legal Lemon Law buyback. In most cases, in most states, a Lemon Law buyback can only take place during the first 12 months or 12,000 miles. Anything beyond that would most likely be a manufacturer buyback with no title branding.

Carfax will note manufacturer buybacks, as well as Lemon Law buybacks. My mom's has both showing on the Carfax for hers, as both took place.

In Texas, the Lemon Law covers 24 months, 24k miles.