Engine Break In Procedure

It makes a difference when you are doing a Search for "break-in" using "Search titles only" as the search criteria.

Peter
But, why is it a big deal for people to search for that? Why can't we let people read the Owners Manual?

Incidentally, I just did a search using the word "break-in" and the first result was this thread since that term is in here. My point is that if someone can figure out how to register on a forum and post a thread, why can't that person have the courtesy to respond to people who have tried to help? And, he/she can come back and edit the title.
 
My point is that if someone can figure out how to register on a forum and post a thread, why can't that person have the courtesy to respond to people who have tried to help? And, he/she can come back and edit the title.
Some people get distracted when doing SQUIRREL .....

Wow, what was the topic?

Oh yeah ....... LIFE

Action
 
But, why is it a big deal for people to search for that? Why can't we let people read the Owners Manual?

Incidentally, I just did a search using the word "break-in" and the first result was this thread since that term is in here. My point is that if someone can figure out how to register on a forum and post a thread, why can't that person have the courtesy to respond to people who have tried to help? And, he/she can come back and edit the title.
You didn't specify "Search titles only" as the search criteria. Searching for previously posted threads helps to prevent duplication of threads on the same topics and should be the first thing a member should do before beginning a new thread.

Peter
 
You didn't specify "Search titles only" as the search criteria. Searching for previously posted threads helps to prevent duplication of threads on the same topics and should be the first thing a member should do before beginning a new thread.

Peter
GIVE ME A BRAKE!! :D
 
You didn't specify "Search titles only" as the search criteria. Searching for previously posted threads helps to prevent duplication of threads on the same topics and should be the first thing a member should do before beginning a new thread.

Peter
Correct. Searching for a thread with a specific title limits the search results. I get it, you are on a crusade to get everyone to put his vehicle in the signature and to spell everything correctly for searches. Lol.
 
Correct. Searching for a thread with a specific title limits the search results. I get it, you are on a crusade to get everyone to put his vehicle in the signature and to spell everything correctly for searches. Lol.
Adding the vehicle info would prevent the many posts I've seen by members inquiring about what vehicle/trim a member has. It just makes it easier and it is required on the Explorer forum. Sal has also added now the ability to add that in a new field, My Lincoln.
Also, he has corrected the title so all is good with the world again. The crusade continues. On to find the next dragon!:D

Peter
______________________________

Help support this site so it can continue supporting you!
 
Adding the vehicle info would prevent the many posts I've seen by members inquiring about what vehicle/trim a member has. It just makes it easier and it is required on the Explorer forum. Sal has also added now the ability to add that in a new field, My Lincoln.
Also, he has corrected the title so all is good with the world again.:D

Peter
Haha, I'm just messing with you. I added my vehicle after you brought that up.

Now, excuse me, I have some misspelled threads to start lol.

:ROFLMAO:
 
I've lost count of the number of times I've had to correct that word on the Explorer forum.;)
I usually notice the use of an incorrect word, but don't point it out. I'm not the grammar police. However, in this case, it makes a difference when using "search".
 
Some people get distracted when doing SQUIRREL .....

Wow, what was the topic?

Oh yeah ....... LIFE

Action

I just went through how many lines to come to the same conclusion!!!

Let's make this simple. Over 15 or 20 years ago manufacturers figured out ring technology (back then molybdenum in the ring end lands) and honing operations (the final finish on the cylinder wall that dictates the final surface finish) such that the two combined and had eternal conjugal satisfaction. Rings got seated within miles, if not hundreds of piston reciprocations. This was largely driven by the EPA requiring clean motors when they first fired up at the factory.

In other words, break-in requirements, for the most part, have disappeared.

That's not to say there aren't any old codgers at the OEMs that remember 'back in the day' and still wish to mandate - 'gotta break in that damn motor'!!!

Reality is, don't worry. All will be fine.
 
I just went through how many lines to come to the same conclusion!!!

Let's make this simple. Over 15 or 20 years ago manufacturers figured out ring technology (back then molybdenum in the ring end lands) and honing operations (the final finish on the cylinder wall that dictates the final surface finish) such that the two combined and had eternal conjugal satisfaction. Rings got seated within miles, if not hundreds of piston reciprocations. This was largely driven by the EPA requiring clean motors when they first fired up at the factory.

In other words, break-in requirements, for the most part, have disappeared.

That's not to say there aren't any old codgers at the OEMs that remember 'back in the day' and still wish to mandate - 'gotta break in that damn motor'!!!

Reality is, don't worry. All will be fine.
What are your related thoughts on all the bearings in the vehicle and brakes? Even with your note, I wonder why virtually all manufacturers require break-in.
The following video seems to make sense: There's a Right and Wrong Way to Break In a New Car
______________________________

Help support this site so it can continue supporting you!
 
Last edited:
Page 338 of the 2020 Lincoln Navigator owner's manual

BREAKING-IN
You need to break in new tires for approximately 300 mi (480 km). During this time, your vehicle may exhibit some unusual driving characteristics. Avoid driving too fast during the first 1,000 mi (1,600 km). Vary your speed frequently and change up through the gears early. Do not labor the engine. Do not tow during the first 1,000 mi


The statement above is likely in the owner's manual of all models.

Action
 
Page 338 of the 2020 Lincoln Navigator owner's manual

BREAKING-IN
You need to break in new tires for approximately 300 mi (480 km). During this time, your vehicle may exhibit some unusual driving characteristics. Avoid driving too fast during the first 1,000 mi (1,600 km). Vary your speed frequently and change up through the gears early. Do not labor the engine. Do not tow during the first 1,000 mi


The statement above is likely in the owner's manual of all models.

Action
Come on, man, try to keep up. I posted this in Post #3. :cool:

@rjabend, guessing the break-in now is just for the normal seating of seals, etc., not the piston walls that @inmanlanier was referencing.
 
Hey, I pushed send button last week!!!!

But I got distracted! Post 22

Action
 
What are your related thoughts on all the bearings in the vehicle and brakes? Even with your note, I wonder why virtually all manufacturers require break-in.
The following video seems to make sense: There's a Right and Wrong Way to Break In a New Car

To your questions...

Yes, I wonder why all the time as well the instructions are still there. My buddy and I are retired mechanical engineers from the Nuclear Power industry. We've been gear-heads since we were teens, drag raced, then road raced, built motors (I've got a 289 just out of my '67 Cougar that I'm putting in a 5.0 roller motor with a nicer cam as I type this). We both studied internal combustion engines in college and the like. He is an industry expert on lubricants and fuels since he took care (Corporately) of our emergency diesel generators. Our guess is that tradition dies hard - just like the 3000 mile oil change interval.

Bearing design in IC engines is such that the bearing metal NEVER touches the rotating element. The film of oil pumped in there provides the clearance desired (oil pressure, temperature and viscosity dictate). As such, there is no break-in for bearings. Touching of the metal parts is the initiator for serious problems and by design the proper machining during manufacture and hydrodynamic design preclude this. Oil starvation is your only concern here (without the proper high pressure film the metal parts will touch) - with today's engine designs oil consumption is more or less a long term concern.

Brakes should be normally driven for a while (avoid full on stops or significant downhill extended grades for a while first). Brakes have two components for 'break-in', both of which with today's technology have a relatively short time frame of import - bedding and cure. The bedding is where the mating surfaces become more or less the same (i.e. full surface contact). New brake pads will traditionally contact only a small amount of the rotor surface when applying (the alignment is not precise between these parts). There is some flexure as the contact load increases which will provide greater contact area. This is not critical because as you drive the surfaces quickly become mated such that the pads will fully contact the rotors. Initially, the smaller contact surface will have higher heat (due to the smaller localized areas), but the pad materials are designed for this and as such won't be an issue. Even if not fully mated, limited contact will simply enable the pad material to heat up faster to the target temperature and your friction coefficient has a broad temperature range so they work fine. Curing is where the friction material (pad material) off-gasses those non functional elements during early life (oils, glue, volatile byproducts, etc). This off-gasing (in extreme scenarios) can impact the pad performance. The pad material 'whitch's brew' of stuff (hard metals, bonding agents, etc.) releases the volatile agents at temperature; heat is the catalyst here. With normal driving, you won't even notice. The hotter you get your pads in normal driving, the faster they cure. Higher heat and number of cycles speeds if up.

If you're going to do some spirited driving or perhaps taking your new car up to mountainous terrain like we will be doing shortly into the life of the car, you can do some checks and accelerate the curing process. The check is do to a moderate to hard stop 1 to 3 times with the windows down. If you smell that good 'ol brake smell you may have smelled once before in the day OR you feel the brake effectiveness (torque) reduce a bit (brake fade), back off and resume normal driving. They're not fully cured yet (but they will still work fine other than the extreme breaking). If you want, drive around a couple more miles to cool them then repeat the process.

To cure new pads for racing (street compounds and more aggressive as well) I'd do 50% or greater level of effort stops from say, 30 to 50 mph all the way to a standstill and repeat. When I noted the slightest smell, I'd resume normal driving at 40 mph or so to cool down, then repeat again. Once we'd done the smell, cool, re-smell perhaps a dozen times or so we'd call it a day.

The only caution I'd have for brand new brakes is don't come down a 4000 ft. mountain with a lot of braking when brand new.

All street factory pads will bed themselves in and cure themselves within a few hundred miles on their own. What early bedding and cure does is allow multiple consecutive extreme stops without fade (which I doubt any of us will ever need). Yes, if you need to brake like the devil at any time due to an emergency - do it - they'll likely stop you fine even if you are driving your car home from the dealership right after purchase.

Sorry for the lengthy discussion.
 
Last edited:
^^ I see we're still breaking.🤣 Sorry. Couldn't help it.

Peter
 
Back
Top