6000 miles on 2022 Aviator. Blues smoke from exhaust after sitting that goes away after a few seconds. The longer it sits the more smoke bit it usually sits for a day. Dealer is changing the oil and said they will go from there. This doesnt seem like a solution to me. I am not accepting this as a solution. It is embarrassing to start up a 73k and blue smoke pours out!
Blue Smoke On Startup
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While I am not an engine expert, I believe your assessment to be accurate. If blue smoke pours out. It could be a serious engine problem. One thing I would check though is whether the dipstick oil level is too high.
We checked the oil and it was down about a 1/2 quart. The dealership doesnt seem to be worried as I asked them if I should continue to drive and they said go ahead. It is in the shop now and they just wanted to change the oil and call it a day. If they tell me this is normal then whatever but I do want an explanation as this does not seem to be normal to me.
Hi Mnikes and welcome to the Lincoln Forums. Sorry to hear you are having problems with your new Aviator. A few thoughts: If the Dealer only had the vehicle for part of the day to change the oil, they likely were not able to see the same thing you see after it sits overnight.
So perhaps, after a few overnight or multi-day sittings, take a few videos of the blue smoke at startup. In this way, you have some visual evidence of the issue at is worst.
Also, keep an eye out to observe if there is any more blue smoke from the exhaust, and monitor the oil level for further loss. If it continues, immediately notify the Dealership and set up another service appointment to have it looked at again.
I totally understand it is frustrating, but you have a 4 year/0,000 mile New Vehicle Warranty and 6 year/70,000 mile Powertrain Warranty, and the Service Department needs to experience an issue in order to properly diagnose and correct it.
If you still feel you are not getting the proper service from your Dealership, try another Lincoln Dealership and/or call Lincoln Concierge for assistance.
Keep us updated and good luck.
They have had it for two days. We have multiple videos of the smoke that we showed them. It was not brought to the shop for an oil change. It was brought in for this issue. They suggest they do an oil change and see what happens.
Hi Mnikes. Okay..that is all new information. If this is the first time you had it in for this problem, then yes, they will monitor the issue.
What questions did you ask as to how you should proceed, how long to wait if it keeps doing this, what will be done next etc.? Ask them questions, if you did not already. And if you did, tell us what they told you.
If you are not happy with the service provided by your Dealership, then the next step would be to contact Lincoln Concierge to see what they can do to assist, or try another Lincoln Dealership in your area.
Also, perhaps post the videos here so those trying to help can better see what you are describing?
Blue smoke is often/usually indicative of an oil leak. Could be many possibilities, so politely ask them the questions. And if you are not happy with the answers, or lack of answers, speak to the Service Manager.
Keep us updated an good luck.
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The smoke you describe is typical of valve stem seals not sealing. Or excessive intake valve to cylinder head clearence. Under conditions of high intake manifold vacuum (Deceleration or idle) it is possible for engine oil to be sucked into the intake manifold via the gap or clearence between intake valve and the valve guide in the cylinder head. Oil in the intake manifold is taken to a cylinder to be burned. The function of valve stem seals are to seal the upper end of the valve to prevent that condition.
Other possibilities -
Engine crankcase ventillation not separating oil from other gases in the crankcase. More modern engines do not use a typical PCV. (Which I have not fully understood) However crankcase ventillation to remove blow by gases is improtant to longterm engine life. If there are issues with the vent system, this can cause oil to get into the intake manifold and burned.
Engine sealing -
A gasket that is leaking internally.
Or piston rings not sealing against the cylinder walls
A turbo that is not totally sealed. The turbo requires a lot of oil to keep the bearings from being burned up. It spins very fast and one side of the turbo has very hot exhaust gas. The bearings are protected by oil from the heat and high RPM operation. A internal leak there can throw oil back into the intake manifold.
The fix?
Not sure of the miles on your vehicle. In the first part of your post you say you have a '22 with 6000 miles. Then end with 73k. Not sure what all that means.
IF the dealership is concerned about the engine break in, chnaing oil is the exact next step to take. The engine oil weight may be too heavy and not allowing the engine parts to break in. Using lighter weight oil allows the break in process to occur. If your exact description is correct and that is what the dealership tech saw - this is NOT the condition. And engine that has not been fully broke in would smoke more on acceleration.
Personally I like an engine that takes longer to break in. If that is the issue, driving a couple of longer trips would highly recommened. Where the engine is operated for 45 mniutes or longer with very little idleing. None at all would be best.
Just some thoughts.
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Other possibilities -
Engine crankcase ventillation not separating oil from other gases in the crankcase. More modern engines do not use a typical PCV. (Which I have not fully understood) However crankcase ventillation to remove blow by gases is improtant to longterm engine life. If there are issues with the vent system, this can cause oil to get into the intake manifold and burned.
Engine sealing -
A gasket that is leaking internally.
Or piston rings not sealing against the cylinder walls
A turbo that is not totally sealed. The turbo requires a lot of oil to keep the bearings from being burned up. It spins very fast and one side of the turbo has very hot exhaust gas. The bearings are protected by oil from the heat and high RPM operation. A internal leak there can throw oil back into the intake manifold.
The fix?
Not sure of the miles on your vehicle. In the first part of your post you say you have a '22 with 6000 miles. Then end with 73k. Not sure what all that means.
IF the dealership is concerned about the engine break in, chnaing oil is the exact next step to take. The engine oil weight may be too heavy and not allowing the engine parts to break in. Using lighter weight oil allows the break in process to occur. If your exact description is correct and that is what the dealership tech saw - this is NOT the condition. And engine that has not been fully broke in would smoke more on acceleration.
Personally I like an engine that takes longer to break in. If that is the issue, driving a couple of longer trips would highly recommened. Where the engine is operated for 45 mniutes or longer with very little idleing. None at all would be best.
Just some thoughts.
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Vehicle was 73k dollars. 6000 miles
Also we drove to Ohio and back from Massachusetts
I think most videos are too large to post. If you have a Youtube page, you can upload the video(s) there, provide the link here and make it public so everyone can see it. That is how I have posted some videos here in the past.
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Have no idea about posting a vid. I assume it starts with ATTACH FILES in the lower left.
The cost of the vehicle has little to do with the function of the engine. The engine you have is in
Ford Bronco, Ranger & Explorer, Lincoln MKC & Continental. The price of those vehicles is all over the board.
The long trip you took should be sufficient. I am not convinced the dealership is taking the correct direction. However I have driven new vehciles that were not fully broke in until 10,0000 miles on the odometer or so. And the engine used some measurable amount of oil (at about a quart in 1000 miles) up until that point.
Best running car I ever drove was a 1985 Mustang GT with a 302. Got it brand new and had the same issues until it got to 8 or 9 thousand miles. If was almost like a different vehicle. Stopped using any noticable amounts of oil. Engine ran a whole lot better. Most people would not have noticed the diffeence. But I did since I drove it about 1000 miles a week, It became appearant the engine had sorted it's self out. It was a very sweet ride after that.
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The cost of the vehicle has little to do with the function of the engine. The engine you have is in
Ford Bronco, Ranger & Explorer, Lincoln MKC & Continental. The price of those vehicles is all over the board.
The long trip you took should be sufficient. I am not convinced the dealership is taking the correct direction. However I have driven new vehciles that were not fully broke in until 10,0000 miles on the odometer or so. And the engine used some measurable amount of oil (at about a quart in 1000 miles) up until that point.
Best running car I ever drove was a 1985 Mustang GT with a 302. Got it brand new and had the same issues until it got to 8 or 9 thousand miles. If was almost like a different vehicle. Stopped using any noticable amounts of oil. Engine ran a whole lot better. Most people would not have noticed the diffeence. But I did since I drove it about 1000 miles a week, It became appearant the engine had sorted it's self out. It was a very sweet ride after that.
Action
I understand the cost doesnt has nothing to do with the engine. Is was me venting that a high priced vehicle or any new vehicle has these kinds of issues. It is just frustration on my part. I have owned a lot of old pieces of crap that used to do this and now that I can afford one of these is was kind of shocking. Just venting. Try this video link.
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As action states, blue smoke is indicative of oil consumption with a large variety of ails ending up with the same symptom. 1/2 quart down at 6,000 miles with today's engines IMHO is also pointing in the wrong direction. Our car was delivered with oil above the 100% level and I've noticed zero change in 7000 miles. I disagree with ACTION a little bit here because today's honing technologies and ring end materials seat almost instantaneously - the current EPA standards have essentially driven that technology improvement.
You are only single data points with limited other information, so what you say and what I say are definitely not conclusive, but - I agree with Action in that an oil change does absolutely nothing to help you diagnose. After the oil change I highly recommend you check your dipstick cold in the morning and memorialize the level in some way (scratch where full, take a photo, write down your observations, whatever). Track it. DON'T let them change the oil again soon since you then lose your reference. Document the frequency of blue smoke - and great idea to video it.
It's not your job to troubleshoot, however any way you can capture irrefutable data to validate the symptom puts the onus on them to fix it. You should consume ZERO oil with today's engine technology if you get the car brand new like this.
Good luck and keep us posted.
You are only single data points with limited other information, so what you say and what I say are definitely not conclusive, but - I agree with Action in that an oil change does absolutely nothing to help you diagnose. After the oil change I highly recommend you check your dipstick cold in the morning and memorialize the level in some way (scratch where full, take a photo, write down your observations, whatever). Track it. DON'T let them change the oil again soon since you then lose your reference. Document the frequency of blue smoke - and great idea to video it.
It's not your job to troubleshoot, however any way you can capture irrefutable data to validate the symptom puts the onus on them to fix it. You should consume ZERO oil with today's engine technology if you get the car brand new like this.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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My 2021 Aviator with 10k just started smoking if sitting three or four days without driving today. It filled the garaged with smoke. Ive not contacted the dealership yet. Have u heard anything about yours yet? I’m tracking oil consumption for usaged starting today.
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Welcome to the Forum
That doesn't seem normal. Mine will sit in the garage for several days and I don't have that issue. It looks like a trip to the dealership is in order to have this looked at and documented.
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Welcome to the Forum.
Just curious. Was the oil change done by the dealer or another shop?
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This has me thinking as I am due soon for an oil change probably to be done at the dealership.
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