2024 delivery schedule

[agogley]

A good breakdown. I will comment that the initial turn inland was on a path directly toward the inlet that would take it to Portland. And we know it was still scheduled for Portland at that time on the tracking sites.

As for now, it couldn't show up at Tacoma before 1700, so it has no choice. Here's another ship I was tracking. It wandered for almost two days before continuing in to New Westminster.
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But like you said. We'll know in a few hours.

This map you posted was very similar movement that the Glovis Chorus exhibited near Yantai. It had been due to Yantai but then had a very similar back and forth pattern (I referred to it as circling because that's the terminology we'd be most familiar with at an airport). I think we will need a few more hours to be certain but the Glovis Chorus hasn't really sped up beyond 3 knots which doesn't seem to me to align with a redirect back to Portland. Also it's still on a 209 degree heading which isn't exactly towards Portland. But then again, this isn't the "circling" pattern I've seen with other ships.

I would imagine that by 5PM Eastern time we should see something more definitive.

 

[agogley]

So vesselfinder doesn't show Glovis Chorus as expected in Tacoma right now. The Port of Tacoma website has it arriving on Monday.

So I suspect we will be in a waiting pattern for the weekend either way. COB tonight I think we will see the ship trajectory change one way or another.

 

[swindler]

This map you posted was very similar movement that the Glovis Chorus exhibited near Yantai. It had been due to Yantai but then had a very similar back and forth pattern (I referred to it as circling because that's the terminology we'd be most familiar with at an airport). I think we will need a few more hours to be certain but the Glovis Chorus hasn't really sped up beyond 3 knots which doesn't seem to me to align with a redirect back to Portland. Also it's still on a 209 degree heading which isn't exactly towards Portland. But then again, this isn't the "circling" pattern I've seen with other ships.

I would imagine that by 5PM Eastern time we should see something more definitive.

It's definitely not headed to Portland. It may be drifting south at a couple of knots, but the bow of the ship is consistently pointed north. It's drifting in the ocean, backwards. Not moving under power.

I believe the waters are too deep there to anchor, so it's drifting, much like Thruxton was doing in my other post.

Also, it was already scheduled for Tacoma on the 15th, so it had to go there anyway. I think this is just a case of rescheduling. I don't believe our vehicles will be dumped in Tacoma.

 

[swindler]

So vesselfinder doesn't show Glovis Chorus as expected in Tacoma right now. The Port of Tacoma website has it arriving on Monday.

So I suspect we will be in a waiting pattern for the weekend either way. COB tonight I think we will see the ship trajectory change one way or another.

Vesselfinder does show it going to Tacoma. What page are you looking at?

Btw, I have a web monitor watching some of the websites. The destination part changed from Portland to Tacoma just before 8 pm last night (Central time). I should have caught it sooner.

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[swindler]

Does anybody have the Inmarsat phone number for the bridge of the Chorus?

 

[agogley]

It's definitely not headed to Portland. It may be drifting south at a couple of knots, but the bow of the ship is consistently pointed north. It's drifting in the ocean, backwards. Not moving under power.

I believe the waters are too deep there to anchor, so it's drifting, much like Thruxton was doing in my other post.

Also, it was already scheduled for Tacoma on the 15th, so it had to go there anyway. I think this is just a case of rescheduling. I don't believe our vehicles will be dumped in Tacoma.

Vesselfinder does show it going to Tacoma. What page are you looking at?

Btw, I have a web monitor watching some of the websites. The destination part changed from Portland to Tacoma just before 8 pm last night (Central time). I should have caught it sooner.

I have different information. The trackers I've seen show the bow heading south on a 212 degree heading under power.

Vesselfinder shows the ship headed to Tacoma if you look at the ship. But it doesn't show up in the expected vessels if you look at the Port. This was exactly what happened at Yantai, by the way.

 

[agogley]

Does anybody have the Inmarsat phone number for the bridge of the Chorus?

I wouldn't be surprised if somebody tried that.

 

[agogley]

It's definitely not headed to Portland. It may be drifting south at a couple of knots, but the bow of the ship is consistently pointed north. It's drifting in the ocean, backwards. Not moving under power.

I believe the waters are too deep there to anchor, so it's drifting, much like Thruxton was doing in my other post.

Also, it was already scheduled for Tacoma on the 15th, so it had to go there anyway. I think this is just a case of rescheduling. I don't believe our vehicles will be dumped in Tacoma.

I see some of the dual tracking sites show the Chorus in a 340 degree heading under power. That must be what you're looking at with the green ship represented on the map.

That's too bad. So now we're looking at docking Monday in Tacoma and then onto Portland (we hope). So really we are looking at next week arrival maybe the 17th. I think we just have to accept that our vehicles are going to be a week later than we thought.

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[swindler]

I have different information. The trackers I've seen show the bow heading south on a 212 degree heading under power.

Vesselfinder shows the ship headed to Tacoma if you look at the ship. But it doesn't show up in the expected vessels if you look at the Port. This was exactly what happened at Yantai, by the way.

That's the whole thing with these websites. The expected vessels pages aren't updated as frequently. You'll see websites with conflicting information all the time. That's why I use 3-4 websites. I'm sure you do too.

I saw the 212° angle a while ago, but it's back to northward. One website says. 340°, another 345°, still 3 knots drifting SW.

Note that the data I'm showing is delayed as well. I don't subscribe to anything, bit it's typically within a half hour.

 

[swindler]

I see some of the dual tracking sites show the Chorus in a 340 degree heading under power. That must be what you're looking at with the green ship represented on the map.

That's too bad. So now we're looking at docking Monday in Tacoma and then onto Portland (we hope). So really we are looking at next week arrival maybe the 17th. I think we just have to accept that our vehicles are going to be a week later than we thought.

@agogley, I believe this issue is one of heading vs course. It's course is SSW around 212° as this is it's direction of travel. But the heading (the direction of the bow) of the ship has been consistently NNW between 340° and 350°. If you look at marinetraffic, they show both. The ship itself shows the heading if you click on it. The dialog below shows the course. I use shipinfo also, and they show heading consistently NNW.

I also see it says it's under power. I think the engine may be idling, or providing minimal thrust. But it's not under power towards SSW, or it's bow would be in that direction.

I know Tacoma was scheduled Monday, but I'm hoping that's old scheduling, and the twist last night was to get it into Tacoma more quickly than Monday. Ironically, I haven't seen a ship at the berth used by Ford/Lincoln this whole time. Who the knows?

 

[agogley]

At this rate I’m just going to use the 17th as a likely ETA. Arrive the 15th, unload, and arrive Portland the 17th.

FB group reports one person still has car from the J Blossom sitting at the rail yard in Portland still. So that’s also concerning.

On the bright side, the longer we wait the more time I have as a member of the group that offers the xplan pin.

 

[swindler]

On the bright side, the longer we wait the more time I have as a member of the group that offers the xplan pin.

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[SgtLip]

On the bright side, the longer we wait the more time I have as a member of the group that offers the xplan pin.

What does that mean?

 

[swindler]

At this rate I’m just going to use the 17th as a likely ETA. Arrive the 15th, unload, and arrive Portland the 17th.

Myshiptracking shows Chorus as one of Tacoma's expected vessels scheduled for 1/15 05:54 PT 13:05 PT. It also shows this, before it cut it's power.

But I'm not sure this is the accurate time the port was changed. This site doesn't report data outside terrestrial waters.

 

[Khak4]

At this rate I’m just going to use the 17th as a likely ETA. Arrive the 15th, unload, and arrive Portland the 17th.

FB group reports one person still has car from the J Blossom sitting at the rail yard in Portland still. So that’s also concerning.

On the bright side, the longer we wait the more time I have as a member of the group that offers the xplan pin.

Are we sure that the cars can’t be unloaded in Tacoma?

 

[swindler]

Are we sure that the cars can’t be unloaded in Tacoma?

I'm not sure, but I would think that would cause a cataclysmic wave in their logistics. The crews, the rail scheduling, the relationships are all planned around Portland. And don't forget about cost. It would be an expensive switch.

While it may be backed up, unless there's an unmanageable situation with the freight trains or something, I think they'll just wait. That's very likely the cheapest approach as well.

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[agogley]

@swindler Here is an interesting site. Best Freight Management & Logistics Software Services - GoComet

It has port congestion status. 3 days Tacoma.

 

[Khak4]

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It has port congestion status. 3 days Tacoma.

It looked like Portland was 18 days backed up or am I reading it incorrectly?

 

[agogley]

Are we sure that the cars can’t be unloaded in Tacoma?

I agree with Swindler although I will give you the caveat that I'm not in the shipping industry so anything I know is based on our collective knowledge through basic research. Granted, we've uncovered a lot, but we don't have any insider knowledge.

We know Hyundai Glovis is the shipper. Maybe there are automatic procedures in place to divert and unload in Tacoma if Portland is congested. Tacoma is, after all, a major import hub for vehicles and I imagine that distribution channels must have the ability to flex around these changes. During COVID we saw companies divert cargo to the East Coast on the fly.

But if that's not already a preplanned outcome, I think the chances are zero that the Lincolns are unloaded there. The ship can travel from Tacoma to Portland in less than a day and as Swindler mentioned we've known that Tacoma had the Glovis Chorus on its scheduled arrival list since the time it left China (if not earlier). So it does seem likely, based on what we all know, that Tacoma was already on the list of stops and because Portland was congested the Chorus decided to go to Tacoma...where apparently, it is also congested. If you look at the tracking of the ship, it does appear that the Glovis Chorus made a course for the entry to Portland then changed to Tacoma (although again, we aren't insiders so this is debatable).

Right now, I think the most likely outcome is that the Glovis Chorus will arrive on Monday the 15th (or very late on the 14th) and depart later that day for Portland, arriving on the 16th and unloading the 16th/17th.

We're all in the same boat together ( ) and just going to have to be a little more patient.

 

[agogley]

It looked like Portland was 18 days backed up or am I reading it incorrectly?

Yes, that's what it said. Although you'll see on the Tacoma one that backup goes up and down and refers to all cargo types. the Portland graph doesn't have many data points that I saw compared to Tacoma.