2023 Reserve III w. 17k miles - Buy? Pass?

[Lee-Va]

I am going through search results on ANC and I see, that my Corsair may have an artificially generated sound. I can also hear a hint of the same bass exhaust tone on the outside. I can definitely hear that noise coming from the back. Should I check for exhaust puncture/perforation? It is kind of confusing.

Usually an exhaust line perforation makes more than a “hint” of a sound. I doubt you have a problem. If you’re concerned, much of the exhaust line is visible without putting the car on a lift. Take a look at the underside and see if there’s any obvious damage. But I bet you’re fine.

Did you resolve the Blue Cruise activation issue?

 

[tidji74]

Usually an exhaust line perforation makes more than a “hint” of a sound. I doubt you have a problem. If you’re concerned, much of the exhaust line is visible without putting the car on a lift. Take a look at the underside and see if there’s any obvious damage. But I bet you’re fine.

Did you resolve the Blue Cruise activation issue?

1. The sound is loud inside and out. It goes away suddenly after the "choke" is off.
2. The BlueCruise got activated by Lincoln remotely. It works great. But it gave me a few scares because of lousy surface quality on TN and GA highways (bad lane markings)

 

[tidji74]

People who think that having simple controls on infotainment screens is wrong should be held accountable—maybe even prosecuted (probably only kidding, but not really sure)!

This morning, I started my drive here in Georgia and realized my seat heater was set to level 3. While squinting against the morning sun, I tried to lower the heat—but the screen was slow. The fancy graphics looked cool but were annoyingly finicky. I spent a good five seconds fiddling with it, and in that moment, I accidentally hit the curb, destroying my fancy Continental CrossContact 245/45-20-99V tire.

To all car manufacturers catering to those of us who value simplicity: bring back the buttons!

 

[Lee-Va]

People who think that having simple controls on infotainment screens is wrong should be held accountable—maybe even prosecuted (probably only kidding, but not really sure)!

This morning, I started my drive here in Georgia and realized my seat heater was set to level 3. While squinting against the morning sun, I tried to lower the heat—but the screen was slow. The fancy graphics looked cool but were annoyingly finicky. I spent a good five seconds fiddling with it, and in that moment, I accidentally hit the curb, destroying my fancy Continental CrossContact 245/45-20-99V tire.

To all car manufacturers catering to those of us who value simplicity: bring back the buttons!

Yikes, sorry about the tire. Hopefully, no damage to the wheel.

The glass button controls take some getting used to. I find the easiest way to adjust the seat heating and cooling is to successively tap the button. Each tap increments in the following manner: from off, 3, 2, 1, off, 3, and so on. I’ve never had any luck adjusting by using the slider bar. Also, I don’t think there is any voice command for the seat heating or cooling.

A piece of good news if you’re not aware of it and you’re thinking about continuing your Blue Cruise subscription after expiration. Ford has dropped the annual subscription price from $800 to $495.

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[tidji74]

Yikes, sorry about the tire. Hopefully, no damage to the wheel.

The glass button controls take some getting used to. I find the easiest way to adjust the seat heating and cooling is to successively tap the button. Each tap increments in the following manner: from off, 3, 2, 1, off, 3, and so on. I’ve never had any luck adjusting by using the slider bar. Also, I don’t think there is any voice command for the seat heating or cooling.

A piece of good news if you’re not aware of it and you’re thinking about continuing your Blue Cruise subscription after expiration. Ford has dropped the annual subscription price from $800 to $495.

So I was able to recover the cost of the tire at a casino lol.
And was able to get two years of BlueCruise for the cost of one-year subscription (promotion info was displayed on my phone application.)
And I still think physical buttons improve safety. The screens are far worse and pose danger in emergency situations when you have to do something looking at a screen instead of using your muscle memory.

 

[tidji74]

On Friday I am going for my 20k miles service.
I have a super short list of three small issues:
- rattle from the screen (SB 23-2395)
- loud exhaust heard inside and outside (when cold)
- bluetooth audio "cracking"
Otherwise the first 4k miles have been perfect!
Upon inspection I will do my oil service: switching to synthetic oil.
Question: for Reserve III - do I need special cabin filter?

 

[bbf2530]

On Friday I am going for my 20k miles service.
I have a super short list of three small issues:
- rattle from the screen (SB 23-2395)
- loud exhaust heard inside and outside (when cold)
- bluetooth audio "cracking"
Otherwise the first 4k miles have been perfect!
Upon inspection I will do my oil service: switching to synthetic oil.
Question: for Reserve III - do I need special cabin filter?

Hi tidji74. No “special “ cabin air filter. The cabin air filter will be the same model as other 2023 Corsairs.

Among other sources, the correct model/part number will be listed in the Maintenance and Specifications section of the Owners Manual. Or you can stop by the Parts Department of your local Lincoln or Ford Dealer for the part number and a price. Then negotiate a better price with them, or use the part number to shop online.

Or perhaps another member here will be able to post the part number.

If I can make one suggestion: When you bring your vehicle in, do not ask for “the 20,000 mile service”. You will be overcharged.
At 20,000 miles for a 2023 vehicke, the only necessary service would be the oil change and tire rotation (if not performed recently). The rest of the “20,000 mile service” essentially consists of “…check this…inspect that”.

So instead, tell them you want “The Works” oil/filter/tire rotation package. It will give you a one price oil/filter change, tire rotation, fluid level check/fill, and all the other necessary “…check this…inspect that.” Inspections mentioned in the “20,000 mile service”.

Additionally, there are often discount coupons for “The Works ” package available on the Lincoln Owner and Ford Owner websites, along with many individual Luncoln and Ford dealership websites.

I’m sure others will jump in with more advice, so keep us updated and good luck.

 

[tidji74]

Hi tidji74. No “special “ cabin air filter. The cabin air filter will be the same model as other 2023 Corsairs.

Among other sources, the correct model/part number will be listed in the Maintenance and Specifications section of the Owners Manual. Or you can stop by the Parts Department of your local Lincoln or Ford Dealer for the part number and a price. Then negotiate a better price with them, or use the part number to shop online.

Or perhaps another member here will be able to post the part number.

If I can make one suggestion: When you bring your vehicle in, do not ask for “the 20,000 mile service”. You will be overcharged.
At 20,000 miles for a 2023 vehicke, the only necessary service would be the oil change and tire rotation (if not performed recently). The rest of the “20,000 mile service” essentially consists of “…check this…inspect that”.

So instead, tell them you want “The Works” oil/filter/tire rotation package. It will give you a one price oil/filter change, tire rotation, fluid level check/fill, and all the other necessary “…check this…inspect that.” Inspections mentioned in the “20,000 mile service”.

Additionally, there are often discount coupons for “The Works ” package available on the Lincoln Owner and Ford Owner websites, along with many individual Luncoln and Ford dealership websites.

I’m sure others will jump in with more advice, so keep us updated and good luck.

Thank you!
They quoted me $120+tax for everything including oil and filters. The lady in service dept was friendly although looking intimidating.

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[tidji74]

Hello! Happy Friday.
Did anybody have their dashboard cracked? Today when I was at a dealership I spotted a crack near the central speaker grill.
Otherwise still love the car!

 

[greerl]

Hi tidji74. No “special “ cabin air filter. The cabin air filter will be the same model as other 2023 Corsairs.

Among other sources, the correct model/part number will be listed in the Maintenance and Specifications section of the Owners Manual. Or you can stop by the Parts Department of your local Lincoln or Ford Dealer for the part number and a price. Then negotiate a better price with them, or use the part number to shop online.

Or perhaps another member here will be able to post the part number.

If I can make one suggestion: When you bring your vehicle in, do not ask for “the 20,000 mile service”. You will be overcharged.
At 20,000 miles for a 2023 vehicke, the only necessary service would be the oil change and tire rotation (if not performed recently). The rest of the “20,000 mile service” essentially consists of “…check this…inspect that”.

So instead, tell them you want “The Works” oil/filter/tire rotation package. It will give you a one price oil/filter change, tire rotation, fluid level check/fill, and all the other necessary “…check this…inspect that.” Inspections mentioned in the “20,000 mile service”.

Additionally, there are often discount coupons for “The Works ” package available on the Lincoln Owner and Ford Owner websites, along with many individual Luncoln and Ford dealership websites.

I’m sure others will jump in with more advice, so keep us updated and good luck.

It seems to me that to ensure your warranty is not in jeporday you must ask for the scheduled maintenance, and ensure it is documented that is what you got.

Yes, it may effectively seem overpriced but, in my opinion, how you must view it is a necessary expense to preserve your warranty.

 

[bbf2530]

It seems to me that to ensure your warranty is not in jeporday you must ask for the scheduled maintenance, and ensure it is documented that is what you got.

Yes, it may effectively seem overpriced but, in my opinion, how you must view it is a necessary expense to preserve your warranty.

Hi greerl. No, that is incorrect. My reply specifically covered what “scheduled maintenance” is required at 20,000 miles. And that can be verified by simply looking in the Owners Manual.

The “Check this…” and “Inspect that…” is not “required maintenance” by Lincoln/Ford. It is profit packing by the Dealership.
Additionally, as my reply clearly stated, all of those checks and inspections are performed as part of the multi -point inspection performed with the “Works Package”.

Blindly telling the Dealership to perform “The 20,0000 mile maintenance” will result in being overcharged for unnecessary items which are already part of “The Works” package.

Check the Maintenance Schedule in your Owners Manual.

And checking the Maintenance Schedule in the Owners Manual is what every Lincoln Owner should do. It removes guessing.

Good luck.

 

[bbf2530]

Hello! Happy Friday.
Did anybody have their dashboard cracked? Today when I was at a dealership I spotted a crack near the central speaker grill.
Otherwise still love the car!

Hi tidji74. Happy to hear everything worked out to your satisfaction with the maintenance.

Did you point out the dashboard crack to the Service Department? The fix would be covered under the 4year/50,000 mile New Vehicle Warranty, assuming the Service Department is not claiming any sign of accident, negligence etc.

Happy motoring and good luck.

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[greerl]

Hi greerl. No, that is incorrect. My reply specifically covered what “scheduled maintenance” is required at 20,000 miles. And that can be verified by simply looking in the Owners Manual.

The “Check this…” and “Inspect that…” is not “required maintenance” by Lincoln/Ford. It is profit packing by the Dealership.
Additionally, as my reply clearly stated, all of those checks and inspections are performed as part of the multi -point inspection performed with the “Works Package”.

Blindly telling the Dealership to perform “The 20,0000 mile maintenance” will result in being overcharged for unnecessary items which are already part of “The Works” package.

Check the Maintenance Schedule in your Owners Manual.

And checking the Maintenance Schedule in the Owners Manual is what every Lincoln Owner should do. It removes guessing.

Good luck.

I guess we agree to disagree.

I'm not going to pinch pennys (and that pinching is work) to put my warranty at risk...possible additional work to prove maintenance performed even if true was performed. In spite of your claim, I don't know that the maintenance is buried in the fine print of a works package as they do not so claim. If anything, I'd claim it's the other packages that are a money scam as they include such as changing the oil at least twice as frequently as necessary.

 

[bbf2530]

I guess we agree to disagree.

I'm not going to pinch pennys (and that pinching is work) to put my warranty at risk...possible additional work to prove maintenance performed even if true was performed. In spite of your claim, I don't know that the maintenance is buried in the fine print of a works package as they do not so claim. If anything, I'd claim it's the other packages that are a money scam as they include such as changing the oil at least twice as frequently as necessary.

Hi greerl. You and I have been through this charade too many times. Therefore, I have reported this thread and asked the Administrator to keep an eye on it.

So let’s make this clear: No. My reply was to tidji74’s specific concerns about the maintenance required at the 20,000 mile point. The information I provided is quite accurate. And tidji74 understood the information provided with no issues. And they were also advised to verify that information by checking the Maintenance Schedule in their Owners Manual. No taking the word of anonymous internet strangers (me/you/anyone). No guessing. No “opinions”. That’s all that is important.

My replies are strictly to help others, not deal with you. You and I don’t need to “agree to disagree”.
You are simply free to do as you like with your own vehicle and money.

Now instead of reading your Owners Manual, you’ve attempted to inject red herrings, such as “changing the oil at least twice as frequently as necessary”, “pinching pennies” etc.
Ironically, I’m trying to keep the OP from being overcharged, while your viewpoint would lead to them being overcharged.

Not overpaying for unnecessary dealer profit services is not “pinching pennies”. You are free to do as you like with your vehicle. Pay whatever you like for whatever services you prefer.

And if you notice, I don’t “claim” anything which can’t be definitively proven by any Lincoln owner, including you, by simply looking at the Maintenance Schedule in their Owners Manual.

You obviously have not even bothered to check your Maintenance Schedule in your Owners Manual. So just look in your Owners Manual instead of guessing.

Good luck.

 

[tidji74]

In the end, I did not go through with the oil change or inspection. Instead, the service team only performed a TSB repair on the rattling screen.
I believe the “Works” service will be enough to maintain the warranty, and I plan to take care of the oil change in 1,000 miles.

So the crack on the dashboard appeared over the weekend.
The car was not hit and was barely used, but the weather was extremely cold (below freezing). The service representative immediately suggested replacing the dashboard, noting that cracks and squeaking or rattling noises are fairly common in Corsairs.

All things considered, I still love the car. While there are a few minor issues, I have 30,000 miles left on the warranty and remain hopeful for several more years of enjoyment—albeit with a bit of drama.

 

[bbf2530]

In the end, I did not go through with the oil change or inspection. Instead, the service team only performed a TSB repair on the rattling screen.
I believe the “Works” service will be enough to maintain the warranty, and I plan to take care of the oil change in 1,000 miles.

So the crack on the dashboard appeared over the weekend.
The car was not hit and was barely used, but the weather was extremely cold (below freezing). The service representative immediately suggested replacing the dashboard, noting that cracks and squeaking or rattling noises are fairly common in Corsairs.

All things considered, I still love the car. While there are a few minor issues, I have 30,000 miles left on the warranty and remain hopeful for several more years of enjoyment—albeit with a bit of drama.

Hi tidji74. You are 100% correct in your belief that “The Works” package and its “Multi-Point inspection” satisfies the “20,000 mile service” and protects our warranty coverage, as previously discussed.

We all also need to keep in mind that some later service intervals (30,000-40,000 miles etc.) may/will require more services to be performed than at 20,000 miles. So everyone needs to be an informed owner and read the Maintenance Schedule in their Owners Manual. Do not take my word, or the word of others on the anonymous internet.

Also, sorry for any miscommunication about the dashboard crack. I was not referring to the vehicle being in an accident. I was referring to the Service Department possibly claiming the dash had been accidentally/negligently hit by a person, object etc.
Happy to hear that did not occur.

Keep us updated and good luck.

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[tidji74]

So everyone needs to be an informed owner and read the Maintenance Schedule in their Owners Manual. Do not take my word, or the word of others on the anonymous internet.

I definitely have to read the maintenance schedule lol.
And thank you all for pitching in.

 

[C Krohn]

When I schedule routine service for my Lincolns (based on the OLM), I ask for an oil change and wind up getting the “Lincoln Priority Service” ( same as Ford “the works” but with a car wash). I always check the owners manual and ask for whatever additional service the manual recommends, but I generally get those additional services sooner. I decline replacement of the air filter and cabin air filter and DIY to save big bucks.

 

[KenInTen]

Admittedly I'm a bit OCD, but here's picture of the spreadsheet I made for my Corsair, similar to what I make for every vehicle I own. I always include recommended maintenance intervals from the manual, but I'm also proactive on certain things like the transmission fluid. As far as warranty goes I get most of my maintenance done at the dealer, and keep receipts for other things like cabin air filters and wipers that I might change myself. Primarily the list is helpful when I do go the dealer, so I know what to schedule rather than simply rely on what they suggest.

 

[bbf2530]

When I schedule routine service for my Lincolns (based on the OLM), I ask for an oil change and wind up getting the “Lincoln Priority Service” ( same as Ford “the works” but with a car wash). I always check the owners manual and ask for whatever additional service the manual recommends, but I generally get those additional services sooner. I decline replacement of the air filter and cabin air filter and DIY to save big bucks.

Hi C Krohn and others interested…just in case it helps:
The services of “The Works” package is the same for both Lincoln and Ford vehicles (except no car wash for Fords, unless the Dealer throws it in for free). Complimentary car washes after services is a Lincoln only perk. Again, unless a Dealership decides to do it on their own for Ford vehicles.

And Lincoln owners can have “The Works” performed at any Lincoln or Ford Dealer. However again, there is no required car wash perk for Lincoln vehicles at Ford Dealers, unless they decide to do it for free.

Also, Lincoln Dealers are supposed to offer a complimentary car wash for all services, anytime we have our Lincoln vehicles in for service. That perk is not limited to the service packages listed below.
So there is no need to pay extra for “Lincoln Priority Service” for a car wash. Unless we want the 2-3 other added services (and additional costs).

If no online coupons are available for “The Works” from the Lincoln/Ford owner websites or individual dealer websites, just choose a dealer that offers a price we are happy with. Or an independent shop if we want (keep receipts for warranty purposes ). Or DIY (also keep receipts).

If it helps, the information below is from the Lincoln website:

“The Works Package”-

• Replace Oil and Filter
• Rotate, Inspect and Pressure Check Tires
• Inspect Brake System
• Test Battery Condition
• Filter Check
• Visually Inspect Belts and Hoses
• Inspect and Adjust Fluid Levels
• Reset Intelligent Oil Life Monitor
• Exterior Car Wash

The “Lincoln Priority Service” offers a few more services (Lincoln loaner, interior vacuum, dress tires), at a higher cost:

• Replace Oil and Filter
• Rotate, Inspect and Pressure Check Tires
• Inspect Brake System
• Test Battery Condition
• Filter Check
• Visually Inspect Belts and Hoses
• Inspect and Adjust Fluid Levels
• Reset Intelligent Oil Life Monitor
• Exterior Car Wash
• Interior Vacuum
• Dress Tires
• Lincoln Loaner”

Then…lol…there is also “Lincoln Priority Service Plus” package, which adds even a few more service items, such as replacing the engine/cabin air filters and wipers. Once again, at a higher cost…

• Replace Oil and Filter
• Rotate, Inspect and Pressure Check Tires
• Inspect Brake System
• Test Battery Condition
• Filter Check
• Visually Inspect Belts and Hoses
• Inspect and Adjust Fluid Levels
• Reset Intelligent Oil Life Monitor
• Exterior Car Wash
• Lincoln Loaner
• Exterior Car Wash
• Interior Vacuum
• Dress Tires
• Change Engine Air Filter
• Change Cabin Air Filer
• Replace Windshield Wiper Blades

As previously mentioned, for Ford vehicles, “The Works Package” does not include a car wash, unless the dealer feels like doing it. So as listed, the only difference between “The Works” and “Lincoln Priority Service” is the…

• Interior Vacuum
• Dress Tires
• Lincoln Loaner

Personally, since I don’t need a loaner for quick services like this, and can vacuum the interior and dress the tires myself, I get “The Works”. My dealer currently offers it for ~$59.95.

Also, we can pay “a la carte” for any individual services, instead of the above packaged services.
I find “The Works” best for me.

However, since we all have many service package choices with our Lincolns, everyone can choose their own level of service.

Hope this information helps and good luck.