2024 Lincoln Nautilus alarm detection

[DonLew]

My 2024 Lincoln Nautilus reserve alarm detection goes off randomly. It only happens when I am out using the car. It's never gone off in the garage by itself. I just can't determine what is causing the alarm to trigger.
Anyone have any suggestions I would appreciate it.
I've only had the car about a week and a half. And I'm still learning all of the settings.
DonL

 

[bbf2530]

My 2024 Lincoln Nautilus reserve alarm detection goes off randomly. It only happens when I am out using the car. It's never gone off in the garage by itself. I just can't determine what is causing the alarm to trigger.
Anyone have any suggestions I would appreciate it.
I've only had the car about a week and a half. And I'm still learning all of the settings.
DonL

Hi DonLew and welcome to the Lincoln Forums.

Blind Internet guess, going off of your description and my I own past experience: The buttons on the keyfob are not well recessed and rather sensitive. And the signal range/distance is surprisingly long.

Since this only seems to occur while you are out with the vehicle, the most likely scenario is the panic alarm button is being inadvertently activated. I have had it happen to me several times over the years. Even a few times while getting into the vehicle with the keyfob in my pocket and the keyfob presses against the bottom of the steering wheel.

I have had the same thing occur with the Global Open/Close window feature. Again, the button is not well recessed, and the windows have opened when the button was accidentally pressed while in my pocket or my wife’s pocketbook.

Of course, it is certainly possible there is some sort of electrical/electronic issue. However, since this never happens while the vwhicle is in the garage (and presumably you don’t have the keys on you?), an accidental panic alarm activation is my blind Internet guess.

If you think there is another issue, schedule a service appointment to have it checked.

I’m sure others will also jump in to help, so keep us updated and good luck.

 

[DonLew]

Thank you for your reply. I did have some other keys hooked to the fob as well but I removed them thinking that was causing the alarm but it's still doing it without them hooked up. I'm going to do some more testing with my phone as the key and not having the key fob on me to see if this stops it. But I think in the past it has gone off with just my phone. Thanks again for your reply I will check back in later.
DonL

 

[DonLew]

Thank you for your reply. I did have some other keys hooked to the fob as well but I removed them thinking that was causing the alarm but it's still doing it without them hooked up. I'm going to do some more testing with my phone as the key and not having the key fob on me to see if this stops it. But I think in the past it has gone off with just my phone. Thanks again for your reply I will check back in later.
DonL

Just had it out. Phone only. It triggered for no reason.

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[swindler]

Just had it out. Phone only. It triggered for no reason.

Are you a helium balloon delivery man?

 

[DonLew]

Are you a helium balloon delivery man?

Nope just a confused new owner. Trying to figure out this issue of the alarm triggering. I must have posted to the wrong person. I intended to reply to

bbf2530​

I apologize.
DonL

 

[DonLew]

Hi DonLew and welcome to the Lincoln Forums.

Blind Internet guess, going off of your description and my I own past experience: The buttons on the keyfob are not well recessed and rather sensitive. And the signal range/distance is surprisingly long.

Since this only seems to occur while you are out with the vehicle, the most likely scenario is the panic alarm button is being inadvertently activated. I have had it happen to me several times over the years. Even a few times while getting into the vehicle with the keyfob in my pocket and the keyfob presses against the bottom of the steering wheel.

I have had the same thing occur with the Global Open/Close window feature. Again, the button is not well recessed, and the windows have opened when the button was accidentally pressed while in my pocket or my wife’s pocketbook.

Of course, it is certainly possible there is some sort of electrical/electronic issue. However, since this never happens while the vwhicle is in the garage (and presumably you don’t have the keys on you?), an accidental panic alarm activation is my blind Internet guess.

If you think there is another issue, schedule a service appointment to have it checked.

I’m sure others will also jump in to help, so keep us updated and good luck.

I thought I would post an update. I disconnected my phone as a key
I put the extra keys back on the key fob. It's been almost a week and not one alarm detection has occurred.
It's a shame that these features do not work as advertised.
Thanks again bbf2530.
DonL

 

[DonLew]

I would like to add that the dealer suggested that I delete my Lincoln Way account and re-register again. This seemed to help as well. He explained that he had a similar issue with a Ford owner and this worked for them.
DonL

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[MattMacMan]

Hi DonLew and welcome to the Lincoln Forums.

Blind Internet guess, going off of your description and my I own past experience: The buttons on the keyfob are not well recessed and rather sensitive. And the signal range/distance is surprisingly long.

Since this only seems to occur while you are out with the vehicle, the most likely scenario is the panic alarm button is being inadvertently activated. I have had it happen to me several times over the years. Even a few times while getting into the vehicle with the keyfob in my pocket and the keyfob presses against the bottom of the steering wheel.

I have had the same thing occur with the Global Open/Close window feature. Again, the button is not well recessed, and the windows have opened when the button was accidentally pressed while in my pocket or my wife’s pocketbook.

Of course, it is certainly possible there is some sort of electrical/electronic issue. However, since this never happens while the vwhicle is in the garage (and presumably you don’t have the keys on you?), an accidental panic alarm activation is my blind Internet guess.

If you think there is another issue, schedule a service appointment to have it checked.

I’m sure others will also jump in to help, so keep us updated and good luck.

This is why the very first thing I do with all my Ford/Lincoln vehicles is flash the BCM and make panic a double press. Never had that problem since.

Also, my input for OP is Ive had my 2023 BL alarm go off randomly.....there was a FLY in the interior setting off the motion sensors on the overhead console by the sunglass holder (I found this out by turning on only my perimeter alarm and it narrowed it down to the interior sensors because the problem immediately stopped.) Figured out it was a FLY this whole time (3 days of this) and have since never had another issue. The sensors are quite sensitive to movement and when something buzzes right in front of them several times in an hour it can drive one NUTS.

 

[DonLew]

Thanks Matt,
I've been doing some online searching on
"Ford/Lincoln vehicles is flash the BCM and make panic a double press"
All I've found is "You can't set the key fob alarm to double press". No way to deactivate.
Yesterday after a day of driving we arrived home, I hung up the key fob on the key rack and about 10 minutes later the car alarm started going of in the garage and a notice on my phone.
I can't find any info on "Flashing the BCM"
DonL

"Flashing" (reprogramming) the Body Control Module (BCM) on a 2024 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve is a procedure that requires specialized diagnostic tools and software, typically performed by a certified Lincoln dealership technician or an independent repair shop with the necessary equipment. It is not a standard operation for an owner to perform.

 

[bbf2530]

Thanks Matt,
I've been doing some online searching on
"Ford/Lincoln vehicles is flash the BCM and make panic a double press"
All I've found is "You can't set the key fob alarm to double press". No way to deactivate.
Yesterday after a day of driving we arrived home, I hung up the key fob on the key rack and about 10 minutes later the car alarm started going of in the garage and a notice on my phone.
I can't find any info on "Flashing the BCM"
DonL

"Flashing" (reprogramming) the Body Control Module (BCM) on a 2024 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve is a procedure that requires specialized diagnostic tools and software, typically performed by a certified Lincoln dealership technician or an independent repair shop with the necessary equipment. It is not a standard operation for an owner to perform.

Hi DonL. A vehicle owner can make many programming changes using FORScan software, a laptop and correct USB cable.

The FORScan software is available online for a free trial period (I believe 30 days, but could be mistaken), then a paid subscription.

However, a good working knowledge of what one is doing and programming is important, as it is possible to turn our vehicle into an expensive paperweight/driveway decoration if performed incorrectly, not backed up properly etc.

I will leave it up to our FORScan gurus to provide more information on all of the above.

Keep us updated and good luck.

 

[DonLew]

I worry now that a "Void Warranty" will occur if I attempt this. Which my knowledge would weigh heavily toward the paperweight scenario.
I assume any service dept. would refuse this as well.
For now I believe I'll do all the checks Batteries (car/fob) doors, hoods, hatch sensors
DonL

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[bbf2530]

I worry now that a "Void Warranty" will occur if I attempt this. Which my knowledge would weigh heavily toward the paperweight scenario.
I assume any service dept. would refuse this as well.
For now I believe I'll do all the checks Batteries (car/fob) doors, hoods, hatch sensors
DonL

Hi DonL. If you mean Ford will refuse a warranty claim for problems resulting from an owner reprogramming their vehicle using FORScan or any other programming software?

The short story answer would be yes. If Ford determines an issue was due to modifications/alterations by a vehicle owner, then yes, it is likely Ford would refuse warranty coverage for problems related to those owner performed changes. They (and any automaker) would certainly be within their rights to do so.

However, keep in mind that denying a warranty claim as discussed above is not the same as a voided warranty. A voided warranty means nothing will ever be covered again under warranty. Even issues unrelated to the reprogramming/modification. In the real world, very few things result in a “voided warranty”. Salvage titles, caught using the vehicle for racing, etc. etc., are a few examples.

Also, according to your most recent descriptions (keyfobs hanging up, no one near them) … it would seem it may not be a case of accidental panic alarm button presses. So reprogramming the system to require two presses would not help anyway. Again, only going off the information provided so far. If this continues, having this diagnosed by your Dealership may be a good course of action.

Hope that makes it a bit clearer, keep us updated and good luck.

EDIT- Also, have you eliminated any possibility it may be the interior motion detector triggering the alarm, as MattMacMan mentioned?

 

[DonLew]

Hi DonL. If you mean Ford will refuse a warranty claim for problems resulting from an owner reprogramming their vehicle using FORScan or any other programming software?

The short story answer would be yes. If Ford determines an issue was due to modifications/alterations by a vehicle owner, then yes, it is likely Ford would refuse warranty coverage for problems related to those owner performed changes. They (and any automaker) would certainly be within their rights to do so.

However, keep in mind that denying a warranty claim as discussed above is not the same as a voided warranty. A voided warranty means nothing will ever be covered again under warranty. Even issues unrelated to the reprogramming/modification.

Also, according to your most recent descriptions (keyfobs hanging up, no one near them) … it would seem it may not be a case of accidental panic alarm button presses. So reprogramming the system to require two presses would not help anyway. Again, only going off the information provided so far. If this continues, having this diagnosed by your Dealership may be a good course of action.

Hope that makes it a bit clearer, keep us updated and good luck.

EDIT- Also, have you eliminated any possibility it may be the interior motion detector triggering the alarm, as MattMacMan mentioned?

Yes I was able to deactivate the interior motion sensors.
I will take it to the dealer if the other batteries and checks do not fix it.
Again thank you so much for posting. All advice/info is appreciated.
DonL

 

[MattMacMan]

Thanks Matt,
I've been doing some online searching on
"Ford/Lincoln vehicles is flash the BCM and make panic a double press"
All I've found is "You can't set the key fob alarm to double press". No way to deactivate.
Yesterday after a day of driving we arrived home, I hung up the key fob on the key rack and about 10 minutes later the car alarm started going of in the garage and a notice on my phone.
I can't find any info on "Flashing the BCM"
DonL

"Flashing" (reprogramming) the Body Control Module (BCM) on a 2024 Lincoln Nautilus Reserve is a procedure that requires specialized diagnostic tools and software, typically performed by a certified Lincoln dealership technician or an independent repair shop with the necessary equipment. It is not a standard operation for an owner to perform.

I work for a Ford/Lincoln Dealership in the service department as an advisor. lol. Im the one writing the tickets to send in for warranty, so I can write it up however I wish.

With that being said...FORScan is a free program, and can do pretty much anything the official FDRS/IDS system can and then some (its not limited by Ford/Lincoln like the official means). You are simply using a switch board per se to flip binaries on or off. It wont void your warranty, we have modified vehicles come in all the time.

 

[MattMacMan]

Hi DonL. If you mean Ford will refuse a warranty claim for problems resulting from an owner reprogramming their vehicle using FORScan or any other programming software?

The short story answer would be yes. If Ford determines an issue was due to modifications/alterations by a vehicle owner, then yes, it is likely Ford would refuse warranty coverage for problems related to those owner performed changes. They (and any automaker) would certainly be within their rights to do so.

However, keep in mind that denying a warranty claim as discussed above is not the same as a voided warranty. A voided warranty means nothing will ever be covered again under warranty. Even issues unrelated to the reprogramming/modification. In the real world, very few things result in a “voided warranty”. Salvage titles, caught using the vehicle for racing, etc. etc., are a few examples.

Also, according to your most recent descriptions (keyfobs hanging up, no one near them) … it would seem it may not be a case of accidental panic alarm button presses. So reprogramming the system to require two presses would not help anyway. Again, only going off the information provided so far. If this continues, having this diagnosed by your Dealership may be a good course of action.

Hope that makes it a bit clearer, keep us updated and good luck.

EDIT- Also, have you eliminated any possibility it may be the interior motion detector triggering the alarm, as MattMacMan mentioned?

This is correct. The Magnusen act (something along those lines) protects consumers from exactly this. Say you flash your BCM. Then say your steering wheel is loose or your transmission is shuddering...it will NOT be a warranty void issue, simply because wheat you did had NOTHING to do with the issues you had come up (even IF it happened at the same time...they arent related in any way.) NOW, if you flash your BCM and your vehicle will no longer detect your key and render your vehicle undriveable....YES, you will be responsible for the cost of towing, and re-flashing the BCM back to factory settings. Will it void your warranty? No. The module is still fully functional and working. It was just bricked and required an official means of re-flashing due to customer "tampering" as Ford will put it (Ive had a few come in for exactly this scenario). However, itll be flashed and pushed back out the door, warranty still in tact. Ford/Lincoln will just force the customer to foot the bill for that one time problem as it was not a manufacturing defect.

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