How do I stop doors automatically locks at 12 MPH

[URDRWHO]

Ok I did a search and in the search results it seems to be some hatred for some lock and autolock and unlock features. I'll admit my 2016 Volvo allowed more options to when and how the car should lock the doors, such as when entering the car, unlock only drivers, driver plus passenger or all 4 doors. I'm surprised Lincoln give less options.

I don't want the car to automatically lock when I reach 12 MPH. I can do that myself if I want my doors locked. Going through a bad neighborhood, I am capable of locking the doors. To me, anytime door lock actuators are used is one time closer to mean time failure rate. I can't turn off the feature of my doors locking when I reach 12 MPH, Is this some engineers sad joke.

I've turned the onscreen autolock on and off and it didn't make any difference.

I still don't see anyway to see what the Avg MPH is on a trip. Heck my 2011 Honda CR-V has it and so did my 2016 Volvo so I am thinking it is available but I have yet to find it.

 

[greerl]

Ok I did a search and in the search results it seems to be some hatred for some lock and autolock and unlock features. I'll admit my 2016 Volvo allowed more options to when and how the car should lock the doors, such as when entering the car, unlock only drivers, driver plus passenger or all 4 doors. I'm surprised Lincoln give less options.

I don't want the car to automatically lock when I reach 12 MPH. I can do that myself if I want my doors locked. Going through a bad neighborhood, I am capable of locking the doors. To me, anytime door lock actuators are used is one time closer to mean time failure rate. I can't turn off the feature of my doors locking when I reach 12 MPH, Is this some engineers sad joke.

I've turned the onscreen autolock on and off and it didn't make any difference.

I still don't see anyway to see what the Avg MPH is on a trip. Heck my 2011 Honda CR-V has it and so did my 2016 Volvo so I am thinking it is available but I have yet to find it.

In spite of what movies may show, You do realize you have to assume dead if you bail out of a moving vehicle? The auto lock on speed is an obvious safety feature that should not be defeatable. I assume you can still manually unlock.

 

[URDRWHO]

In spite of what movies may show, You do realize you have to assume dead if you bail out of a moving vehicle? The auto lock on speed is an obvious safety feature that should not be defeatable. I assume you can still manually unlock.

Thanks but I can only think you are fooling with me. Right? I know this site is very different from car sites of guys that pull engines, go racing, modify engines, etc. all that of which I once belonged when I drove Jaguars. But bailing out of a vehicle isn't something I plan on doing so I can only guess you are pulling my leg. But it gave me a smile before heading off to sleep. The only time I came close to flying from a car was almost 60 years ago when 6 of us were riding in a car, joy riding and drinking. The driver went off the road, the car rolled three times. No seat belts in those days and only one guy flew out of the car. Broke his collar bone. Used to race Triumph motorcycle and 130 MPH on a Trident is a thrill. So, I think I can do the risk/reward and assume the risk of driving with an unlocked door. Oh yeah and I was shot at one time a .30-06 and had a .38 shoved in my face and a .357 and pointed at me. I guess I should be dead?

So now -- the book says I should be able to disarm the autolock above 12 MPH feature. Dealer only or end user friendly.

 

[greerl]

Thanks but I can only think you are fooling with me. Right? I know this site is very different from car sites of guys that pull engines, go racing, modify engines, etc. all that of which I once belonged when I drove Jaguars. But bailing out of a vehicle isn't something I plan on doing so I can only guess you are pulling my leg. But it gave me a smile before heading off to sleep. The only time I came close to flying from a car was almost 60 years ago when 6 of us were riding in a car, joy riding and drinking. The driver went off the road, the car rolled three times. No seat belts in those days and only one guy flew out of the car. Broke his collar bone. Used to race Triumph motorcycle and 130 MPH on a Trident is a thrill. So, I think I can do the risk/reward and assume the risk of driving with an unlocked door. Oh yeah and I was shot at one time a .30-06 and had a .38 shoved in my face and a .357 and pointed at me. I guess I should be dead?

So now -- the book says I should be able to disarm the autolock above 12 MPH feature. Dealer only or end user friendly.

You get an A for creative writing. You could say the same thing about seat belts, air bags, and probably some other features of our high tech vehicles. You can't expect the manufacturers to deliver with other than the default being safe mode.

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[URDRWHO]

You get an A for creative writing. You could say the same thing about seat belts, air bags, and probably some other features of our high tech vehicles. You can't expect the manufacturers to deliver with other than the default being safe mode.

Last night it was just the immediate picture that came into my head when you posted about falling from a moving car and I pictured me driving and all of the sudden falling out of the car. I don't know but on my car I need to pull the handle to open the door.

Well no, you can expect to be able to disable it (manual says so). My Volvo V60 allowed me to set it the way I wanted it. So did my Subaru Outback. Remember passive restraints? They were such a PITA and failure that I don't think you will find them on a modern car. My last car with passive was an XJ6 and how often that belt got stuck in the rails? I can't count the times.

"The 90s were a weird time. There are a lot of things that exist as sort of a hazy fever dream in our collective consciousness—like that time KISS took off the makeup and released a grunge album. Another example of ephemera we’d all rather forget? Automatic seat belts. While seat belts are considered to be an incredibly important factor in reducing traffic injuries, the automatic versions have been relegated to just being another misstep in safety technology."

Thank goodness you can turn off the annoying person in the backseat advisement.

BUT it isn't that big of a deal, I was just surprised that even though the onscreen allows me to toggle it to off, it doesn't go to disable. The manual says it is a touchscreen feature. Sure doesn't bother me enough to spend $300 to have a dealer do it.

From manual -
"Autolock (If Equipped)
Autolock locks all the doors when all of the following occur:

• You have closed all doors.
• The ignition is on.
• You shift into any gear putting your vehicle in motion.
• Your vehicle reaches a speed greater than 12 mph (20 km/h).

Enabling or Disabling
You can enable or disable the feature from the touchscreen or an authorized dealer can do it for you."

 

[URDRWHO]

Huh? Just went out on the cold morning and re-checked the screen. Sadly I don't have Autolock . I have Autounlock. So I guess this conversation is done.

Even the Honda has the onscreen ability -- sigh.

 

[ljnelson109]

Unfortunately I have not figured out how to disable auto lock on my Corsair yet. I will say that I have had vehicles that allow you to disable this "feature". My 2 Chrysler Pacifica's could be disabled by the dealer (and they did it for both of my vans). I have had this debate on the Pacifica forums and can assure you that there is no winners in the discussion. The fact is, anyone who does a carpool drop-off or pick-up will agree that having to manually unlock the doors is very annoying. Even though my passenger can open the front door without the unlock, they can't grab their items from the back seat until I manually unlock the doors.

I have forscan. I suspect it can be disabled using this scanner. But, the Forscan mappings for the Corsair are really hard to come by. I can find pages of mappings for an F150, but good luck with the Corsair/Maverick/Escape.

 

[URDRWHO]

Unfortunately I have not figured out how to disable auto lock on my Corsair yet. I will say that I have had vehicles that allow you to disable this "feature". My 2 Chrysler Pacifica's could be disabled by the dealer (and they did it for both of my vans). I have had this debate on the Pacifica forums and can assure you that there is no winners in the discussion. The fact is, anyone who does a carpool drop-off or pick-up will agree that having to manually unlock the doors is very annoying. Even though my passenger can open the front door without the unlock, they can't grab their items from the back seat until I manually unlock the doors.

I have forscan. I suspect it can be disabled using this scanner. But, the Forscan mappings for the Corsair are really hard to come by. I can find pages of mappings for an F150, but good luck with the Corsair/Maverick/Escape.

Yes I was very surprised that you can't disable it. I'm impressed with the ride, the look, the leather but not impressed with the computer options. No auto lock disable feature is one and another one is no average MPH on a trip. Avg MPH is important because it can tell you that your MPG is not jiving with what your normal driving habits are and time to find out why. I haven't had any cars that don't have an Avg MPH and I can go way back to my 1999 Jaguar XJ6. Next one is the inability to turn off the lights that come on when I open my door. Why the heck do I need lights coming on when it is daylight. I had that option totally disabled on my 2016 Volvo but on the Corsair, I have yet to find a way. If I lived in the city, ok...maybe but I live outside of the city. The option should be available to enable and disable.

Over on Volvo there was a dealer mechanic that was a forum member. He was great. I owned three Volvo's over a 13 year period and he offered a lot of suggestions on getting past computer issues. Like how to turn off the idiot, "time for service" light. All it most always meant was we (the dealer) would like to see you. How to reset the battery monitor after installing a new battery. Things like that were helpful coming from a technician.

Forscan is supposed to work on Lincolns?????

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[greerl]

Yes I was very surprised that you can't disable it. I'm impressed with the ride, the look, the leather but not impressed with the computer options. No auto lock disable feature is one and another one is no average MPH on a trip. Avg MPH is important because it can tell you that your MPG is not jiving with what your normal driving habits are and time to find out why. I haven't had any cars that don't have an Avg MPH and I can go way back to my 1999 Jaguar XJ6. Next one is the inability to turn off the lights that come on when I open my door. Why the heck do I need lights coming on when it is daylight. I had that option totally disabled on my 2016 Volvo but on the Corsair, I have yet to find a way. If I lived in the city, ok...maybe but I live outside of the city. The option should be available to enable and disable.

Over on Volvo there was a dealer mechanic that was a forum member. He was great. I owned three Volvo's over a 13 year period and he offered a lot of suggestions on getting past computer issues. Like how to turn off the idiot, "time for service" light. All it most always meant was we (the dealer) would like to see you. How to reset the battery monitor after installing a new battery. Things like that were helpful coming from a technician.

Forscan is supposed to work on Lincolns?????

Forscan works on my 2011 MKZ but I've had no reason to try anything on my 2023 Corsair GT so can't soesk to newer models.

 

[ljnelson109]

Yes Forscan definitely works. I can see all of the settings. But without a decoder ring (or spreadsheet) I couldn't find too many things to change. The F series trucks have a huge following of people who have identified the parameters. For example, you can increase the the temp on your heated steering wheel. I find the temp on the Corsair to be rather tepid.

 

[ColonelColt]

There's more important things in life then defeating your automatic door locks. Then again...I obsess about things unimportant to others.

 

[URDRWHO]

There's more important things in life then defeating your automatic door locks. Then again...I obsess about things unimportant to others.

Yeah I haven't thought much about it. But there are a lot of people who like me, are surprised that you can't shut it off but many, many other cars, older cars allow you to shut it off. IMO it was a bad engineering choice.

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[ColonelColt]

My dad once owned a ‘70 Lincoln and a ‘76 Mark IV plus I had an ‘02 Lincoln LS…all had automatic door locks…the ‘70’s door locks I believe were vacuum operated. It never dawned on either of us whether the automatic lock features could be disabled.

 

[ljnelson109]

My dad once owned a ‘70 Lincoln and a ‘76 Mark IV plus I had an ‘02 Lincoln LS…all had automatic door locks…the ‘70’s door locks I believe were vacuum operated. It never dawned on either of us whether the automatic lock features could be disabled.

Automatic or "power operated"? I have also heard it called "central locking". I don't recall seeing any cars that locked the doors at speed until after 2000. I have had some that could be disabled by the user (through dash menus) and others that could only be disabled by scanner access. This is definitely my first car that does not appear to have an easy option to disable this feature.

 

[ColonelColt]

They were all automatic…regardless of how they were powered. I had a ‘98 Mercury Mountaineer that had power operated locks…there was a rocker switch on the door.

 

[ljnelson109]

They were all automatic…regardless of how they were powered. I had a ‘98 Mercury Mountaineer that had power operated locks…there was a rocker switch on the door.

The ability to operate with a switch is not in question here. The ability to operate with a remote is also not in question. The issue is a car that chooses to lock the doors when the owner did not choose to. It is a nanny state issue. Unlike the debate in another thread about the federally mandated pedestrian warning speaker, I am not aware of a federal mandate that locks door after certain speed.

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[ColonelColt]

While not federally mandated…Ford probably considers it a convenience item they can use as a sales tool…something an upscale car should have. To the vast majority of buyers not being able to disable is probably a non-issue…a solution in search of a problem.

All manufacturers of any consumer products know they can’t please everyone. That’s the beauty of a free market…if one manufacturer doesn’t give what you want…someone else will. If the demand is there…it will be made available.

 

[ljnelson109]

All manufacturers of any consumer products know they can’t please everyone. That’s the beauty of a free market…if one manufacturer doesn’t give what you want…someone else will. If the demand is there…it will be made available.

Absolutely!

My wife really liked the style of the Corsair. We ordered it in Sept 22, the first week orders were open. They didn't get around to building our Corsair until Aug 23. By that time, we both had started looking at alternative vehicles. She almost pulled the trigger on something else. One of the top contenders was the Genesis GV60. Her main hesitation was that she was not ready to go full EV. She went ahead and took delivery of the Corsair. The ridiculously loud and obnoxious pedestrian warning speaker almost spoiled the deal!

Incidentally, a year later, I bought the GV60 for me. Although it also has the federally mandated speaker system, it is barely noticeable from inside of the vehicle.

We are very particular about features and options on our vehicles. It makes us very difficult customers. I have definitely not found a car that can be optioned the exact way that we want it. Some have deal breaker features, configurations, or other poor design decisions. For us, it is the least amount of compromise.

 

[URDRWHO]

While not federally mandated…Ford probably considers it a convenience item they can use as a sales tool…something an upscale car should have. To the vast majority of buyers not being able to disable is probably a non-issue…a solution in search of a problem.

All manufacturers of any consumer products know they can’t please everyone. That’s the beauty of a free market…if one manufacturer doesn’t give what you want…someone else will. If the demand is there…it will be made available.

The discussion is the ability to turn that off or on. I have no problem with auto lock on a car but what is unique to me is that I can not turn it off. I think my last 4 cars going back at least 15 years had auto lock but I could turn it off or on. That goes a long way in satisfying more people. Now that I'm into my 70's, have arthritis, I don't do a lot of work on my cars. But I can say with 100% certainty there is a lot of engineering done that is for the manufacturer only and not for the owner. Was the decision on the auto lock always on a feature or an engineering decision that saved $50 per vehicle. Lexus has a model out that is having a problem with a leaking timing cover gasket. Normally that is a quick easy fix. On this certain Lexus model you have to pull the entire engine. So instead of a few $hundred it is several $thousand to fix it. Engineered for whom?

The EcoBoost engine looks like an easy engine to work on and aside from the direct injection issues, my 2021 model has problems ironed. Some EcoBoost engines had the head gasket issue but that was fixed May of 2019. And even that was an engineering failure, anyone who has ever worked on engines asked, "what were they thinking." On this 2.3 EcoBoost engine, I could change ign coils dressed in my Sunday best and not get dirty.

I was hoping to find (and I did) find a 2.3 -- reason was "
It's hard to find fault with the 2.3-liter EcoBoost. It, of course, shares the carbon buildup issues that all EcoBoosts have — that's part of the deal with a direct-injection system — but compared to the problems we've already discussed with other engines, that's barely an inconvenience. "

Read More: Every Ford EcoBoost Engine Ranked Worst To Best - SlashGear

 

[ColonelColt]

Cars are made to be assembled easier than to be serviced.