2023 Corsair orders, build dates

Very BAD news with yesterday 's update. I no longer have a projected build date (was May 10) for my 2023 Whisper Blue GT Collection III ordered 14 December 2022.

History:
14 December 2022: Ordered
14 December: Order confirmation
9 February 2023: First production estimate of 24 April 2023 (VIN included)
21 February: Production estimate to May 1
21 March: Production estimate to May 8.
5 April: Production estimate to May 10.
14 April: Production eat DROPPED
What does the final entry actually mean? And what is your dealer saying?
 
It look likes automated emails were sent out weekly, or thereabouts, during the production pause. Do you know what "priority codes" 19 and 02 mean? And finally, what does the term "blend date" mean?
Priority code 19 = normally first code you are assigned. Once Ford accepts everything as a good, order dealer should kick it up to 10 or 11.
The regional manager at some point assigns Priority code 2, means you are near front of the line to get scheduled if all the features you want are available.

Blend date is Fords guess when your vehicle will get built assuming all parts are there. Once upon a time blend date meant something I have had 3 different dates.....lol
 
Priority code 19 = normally first code you are assigned. Once Ford accepts everything as a good, order dealer should kick it up to 10 or 11.
The regional manager at some point assigns Priority code 2, means you are near front of the line to get scheduled if all the features you want are available.

Blend date is Fords guess when your vehicle will get built assuming all parts are there. Once upon a time blend date meant something I have had 3 different dates.....lol

Priority code 19 = normally first code you are assigned. Once Ford accepts everything as a good, order dealer should kick it up to 10 or 11.
The regional manager at some point assigns Priority code 2, means you are near front of the line to get scheduled if all the features you want are available.

Blend date is Fords guess when your vehicle will get built assuming all parts are there. Once upon a time blend date meant something I have had 3 different dates.....lol
Got it, thnx. For me I recently got an (estimated) scheduled production start date for early june, a VIN, and an order number. Nothing else I can see.
 
What does the final entry actually mean? And what is your dealer saying?
My prior dealer contacts suggest that my dealer knows even less than I. With no production date, implication is that I'm not even in queue, simply order confirmed.

So your guess of what it really all means is as good as mind; at best it means their communications is messed up, at worst that delivery at all, ever, is now in doubt.
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I too only have an "Order Confimed" by Lincoln on a 2023 GT placed in Sept.
 
Very BAD news with yesterday 's update. I no longer have a projected build date (was May 10) for my 2023 Whisper Blue GT Collection III ordered 14 December 2022.

History:
14 December 2022: Ordered
14 December: Order confirmation
9 February 2023: First production estimate of 24 April 2023 (VIN included)
21 February: Production estimate to May 1
21 March: Production estimate to May 8.
5 April: Production estimate to May 10.
14 April: Production eat DROPPED


Where can you see these details? When I go to the website using the link in my original build-date email, I can no longer see any dates of any kind, other than the BS order date after my dealer sat on the order for four months.
 
Where can you see these details? When I go to the website using the link in my original build-date email, I can no longer see any dates of any kind, other than the BS order date after my dealer sat on the order for four months.
Scroll down a bit. Under Order Details still had VIN and update date.
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Why do we need dealers if all options are in a small number of packages, the car must be ordered, no cars are available for a test drive, and the updates and info are all done online? The dealer value-add on a sale used to be helping you pick options, taking you for a test drive, finding a car in stock, and doing financing. The downside was always all the time wasted, the aggressive upselling of useless add-ons, etc. Now, we could just order our car online, pay list price (no bargaining anymore), get the financing online, get the updates on the build online, then get it delivered to our door, the Tesla sales model. Dealers can do service, which is how they made their money anyway.

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This does not bode well for deliveries.......
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Ford to slow output at Escape plant in Louisville​

Louisville Assembly Plant is back to work after weeks of unplanned layoffs, but the automaker is slowing the number of SUVs produced per hour​

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) — About 3,200 hourly workers at Ford Motor Co.’s Louisville Assembly Plant are back on the job after a roller coaster of week-to-week layoffs in the first three months of 2023.

But as the plant’s two shifts settle back to regular work producing the Escape SUV, the automaker is also planning to slow the plant’s output starting next week — a change that has sparked anxiety among some workers about job security.

Louisville Assembly, or LAP, plans to cut its “jobs per hour” from 85 to 79, a change that “may require a corresponding change to job allocations and job assignments,” plant manager Andrew Tapp told workers in a March 29 memo, a copy of which was obtained by WDRB News.

Tapp’s memo does not disclose the reason for the change, and Ford did not respond to a request for comment.

Brandon Reisinger, LAP building chairman for the United Auto Workers union, said no one at the plant will lose a job, but a small amount of positions may be lost through normal attrition.

“I am not trying to spin it as a good thing,” Reisinger told WDRB News. “But it’s not anything to panic over.”

Reisinger said the reduction in line speed is not nearly as severe as cuts the plant made two decades ago when its previous product, the Explorer, was near the end of its time at LAP.

Reisinger said he doesn’t anticipate further reductions in output at the plant. (LAP also produces the Lincoln Corsair, though the Escape is more than 80% of its volume.)

In the March 29 memo, Tapp said he was excited that LAP will soon ship 2023 Escape units to dealers.

The plant started making the 2023 models earlier this year, but the launch of the reworked vehicle was plagued by software problems and parts shortages.


Week-by-week production cancelations resulted in about six down weeks during the first three months of the year.

As a consequence, the plant produced the fewest Escapes during the January-March period in at least four years — significantly fewer than in 2021, when the worldwide semiconductor shortage roiled the industry, according to WDRB’s analysis of Ford figures.

Ford Escape production​

The number of Escape units produced at Louisville Assembly Plant plummeted during the first quarter of 2023 compared to prior years.​


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The situation underscores uncertainty about the future of the Escape, which makes up a smaller share of Ford’s portfolio than it did five years ago. In addition to the proliferation of similarly sized vehicles made by competitors, Ford’s own Bronco Sport launched in 2021 has eaten into the Escape’s market share.

“The Escape doesn't move as much; there's a lot of them on the road, a ton of them in the used car market. So, they want to force people — if you want that size of vehicle, here comes a Bronco Sport; it's fresher, it’s more urban,” said Joseph McCabe, CEO of AutoForecast Solutions, an industry consulting firm.

UAW leaders have said they will push for a long-term commitment to Louisville Assembly Plant as part of the union’s contract negotiations with Ford later this year.

RELATED: ‘Protect what we have’ | At Ford's Louisville Assembly Plant, Escape’s decline raises questions about future

AutoForecast Solutions sees LAP transitioning to making an electric vehicle in 2026. McCabe said such a move would make sense given that LAP is the closest assembly plant to BlueOval SK, the $5.8 billion EV battery factory that Ford and Korean partner SK On are building in Hardin County, Ky.

“The battery plant proximity is a major win in that (decision),” McCabe said, “but who knows what comes out of the next negotiations and what plants get the capacity.”
 

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Why do we need dealers if all options are in a small number of packages, the car must be ordered, no cars are available for a test drive, and the updates and info are all done online? The dealer value-add on a sale used to be helping you pick options, taking you for a test drive, finding a car in stock, and doing financing. The downside was always all the time wasted, the aggressive upselling of useless add-ons, etc. Now, we could just order our car online, pay list price (no bargaining anymore), get the financing online, get the updates on the build online, then get it delivered to our door, the Tesla sales model. Dealers can do service, which is how they made their money anyway.

2020 Corsair Reserve
The sales manager at my dealership told me that many new cars are sold in Europe that way at kiosks. Few traditional dealer facilities still exist. He went on to say that the same thing is coming for the US.
 
The sales manager at my dealership told me that many new cars are sold in Europe that way at kiosks. Few traditional dealer facilities still exist. He went on to say that the same thing is coming for the US.
Franchise laws are very different here. Example in Michigan nearest place to pickup a Tesla is Ohio. Michigan law you must have a brick and motor building to deliver vehicles.
 
This does not bode well for deliveries.......
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Ford to slow output at Escape plant in Louisville​

Louisville Assembly Plant is back to work after weeks of unplanned layoffs, but the automaker is slowing the number of SUVs produced per hour​

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) — About 3,200 hourly workers at Ford Motor Co.’s Louisville Assembly Plant are back on the job after a roller coaster of week-to-week layoffs in the first three months of 2023.

But as the plant’s two shifts settle back to regular work producing the Escape SUV, the automaker is also planning to slow the plant’s output starting next week — a change that has sparked anxiety among some workers about job security.

Louisville Assembly, or LAP, plans to cut its “jobs per hour” from 85 to 79, a change that “may require a corresponding change to job allocations and job assignments,” plant manager Andrew Tapp told workers in a March 29 memo, a copy of which was obtained by WDRB News.

Tapp’s memo does not disclose the reason for the change, and Ford did not respond to a request for comment.

Brandon Reisinger, LAP building chairman for the United Auto Workers union, said no one at the plant will lose a job, but a small amount of positions may be lost through normal attrition.

“I am not trying to spin it as a good thing,” Reisinger told WDRB News. “But it’s not anything to panic over.”

Reisinger said the reduction in line speed is not nearly as severe as cuts the plant made two decades ago when its previous product, the Explorer, was near the end of its time at LAP.

Reisinger said he doesn’t anticipate further reductions in output at the plant. (LAP also produces the Lincoln Corsair, though the Escape is more than 80% of its volume.)

In the March 29 memo, Tapp said he was excited that LAP will soon ship 2023 Escape units to dealers.

The plant started making the 2023 models earlier this year, but the launch of the reworked vehicle was plagued by software problems and parts shortages.


Week-by-week production cancelations resulted in about six down weeks during the first three months of the year.

As a consequence, the plant produced the fewest Escapes during the January-March period in at least four years — significantly fewer than in 2021, when the worldwide semiconductor shortage roiled the industry, according to WDRB’s analysis of Ford figures.

Ford Escape production​

The number of Escape units produced at Louisville Assembly Plant plummeted during the first quarter of 2023 compared to prior years.​


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The situation underscores uncertainty about the future of the Escape, which makes up a smaller share of Ford’s portfolio than it did five years ago. In addition to the proliferation of similarly sized vehicles made by competitors, Ford’s own Bronco Sport launched in 2021 has eaten into the Escape’s market share.

“The Escape doesn't move as much; there's a lot of them on the road, a ton of them in the used car market. So, they want to force people — if you want that size of vehicle, here comes a Bronco Sport; it's fresher, it’s more urban,” said Joseph McCabe, CEO of AutoForecast Solutions, an industry consulting firm.

UAW leaders have said they will push for a long-term commitment to Louisville Assembly Plant as part of the union’s contract negotiations with Ford later this year.

RELATED: ‘Protect what we have’ | At Ford's Louisville Assembly Plant, Escape’s decline raises questions about future

AutoForecast Solutions sees LAP transitioning to making an electric vehicle in 2026. McCabe said such a move would make sense given that LAP is the closest assembly plant to BlueOval SK, the $5.8 billion EV battery factory that Ford and Korean partner SK On are building in Hardin County, Ky.

“The battery plant proximity is a major win in that (decision),” McCabe said, “but who knows what comes out of the next negotiations and what plants get the capacity.”
I don’t even have a Corsair on order. I love my 2022. But…..sounds to me like all the people who have orders that aren’t materializing should ban together for a class action lawsuit ! Slow down production when some people have been waiting a half year already ? The balls of this CEO !!!
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I don’t even have a Corsair on order. I love my 2022. But…..sounds to me like all the people who have orders that aren’t materializing should ban together for a class action lawsuit ! Slow down production when some people have been waiting a half year already ? The balls of this CEO !!!
I wonder how many of us there are?
 
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Me too. Looks like the week of 6/5/23 will be very busy. Wonder how credible the emails are ?

They seem about as credible as emails from the Nigerian Prince....
 
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They seem about as credible as emails from the Nigerian Prince....
The Prince didn't tell me I'd have to split the money with you @tgara. Darn!
 
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