Webasto Charging Cable Issues. For GT owners

After one year of using the ChargePoint Home, I am well pleased with its performance and lack of any heat or issues. The app works fine too.
 
heywardjr said:
After one year of using the ChargePoint Home, I am well pleased with its performance and lack of any heat or issues. The app works fine too.
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Thats the benefit of having the ChargePoint put in. I didnt learn that much. I just went with the line from the electrician. I guess I can install a Home system and get more function from that same line.
 
heywardjr said:
After one year of using the ChargePoint Home, I am well pleased with its performance and lack of any heat or issues. The app works fine too.
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I have the ChargePoint Flex too. After the Webasto cord overheated and failed the new cord they gave me as a replacement had completely different electrical requirements that were the same as the ChargePoint Flex. I'll use the new cord as a travel cord and the ChargePoint while at home.
 
I just installed a second 50amp circuit and plug (14-50r) in my garage in preparation for my '23 GT. My wife's '22 GT uses the other one I installed last fall. Hers has been working great so far and I expect my side will too once I get the GT (whenever that will be). I did use 6 guage wire and 50amp breakers so it is future proofed in case we go full EV in the future. Also, if we start having issues with the Lincoln cables, I'll simply install 2 chargers - either using the plugs or direct connect. I just want the GT to get built and delivered!
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Sharbotcom said:
I just installed a second 50amp circuit and plug (14-50r) in my garage in preparation for my '23 GT. My wife's '22 GT uses the other one I installed last fall. Hers has been working great so far and I expect my side will too once I get the GT (whenever that will be). I did use 6 guage wire and 50amp breakers so it is future proofed in case we go full EV in the future. Also, if we start having issues with the Lincoln cables, I'll simply install 2 chargers - either using the plugs or direct connect. I just want the GT to get built and delivered!
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I'm enjoying one of the chargers I got from Amazon. $125. Its my main fast charger. it does NOT have an adapter like the OEM stuff. I keep the adapter for fast charging if I'm not home.
 
I have a 2021 GT. Recently, my Webasto charger would only charge at 120 volts, but not 240 volts; the adapter displayed the orange light that everyone has reported. My dealership is great to work with, but I must have the only GT in town, because the dealership didn't have a 240V outlet to test my charger, nor were they able to diagnose the problem with the new charger that they offered me (that didn't work). Having no way to charge at 240V (and I had just paid $500 to have the 240V outlet installed), I investigated the problem myself. The culprit is the adapter that goes between the charger and the 240V outlet. Webasto sells that adapter (P/N 28868-001) for $45 (https://store.evsolutions.com/turbocord-dual-240v120v---adapter-new-p122.aspx), and that solved the problem. On further investigation, I found that the culprit inside the adapter is one of two thermal fuses (Microtemp G5A01 104C from Newark.com, Part Number 3394436). This thermal fuse open-circuits ("blows") above 25 amps (at 120V) and above 105C (221F). There is one fuse for each 120V "leg". These are not serviceable components inside this adapter, so DO NOT attempt to repair it. If you want to continue to use the original charger and you're getting the orange light when you attempt to charge at 240V, just buy the $45 adapter. Maybe someday, my dealership can provide a new charger that works, but at present, I'm perfectly satisfied with my portable Webasto charger. At the recommendation of Webasto, I will also change the 240V outlet connector to a Leviton 5461.20230802_155832.webp
 
Is it possible some people have too big a circuit breaker on their charger circuit which is allowing an internal thermal fuse to blow if there is some kind of current surge or spike? I know some of us are saying they installed 50A circuits (is that based on breaker or wire rating?). I adapted a previously-installed garage 240V outlet with a new receptacle (unknown rating) to fit the charging cable 240V plug and changed the breaker from 50A to 40A. Haven't had any problems in the ensuring 18 months. This website have useful info: 2021 Lincoln Corsair PHEV Level 2 Charging Time | EvoCharge, indicates 32A or 40A charge at the Corsair GT at the same rate.
 
I had the electrician install a 50amp line because at the time that was all that was left on my circuit (200 amp box). I would have needed to pay for another electric line and box which would be expensive because I am an acre and a half away from the underground street electric box. Digging another trench to burry the cable would have damaged my underground sprinkler system as well. Not worth it. I had originally ordered a Ford Mustang Mach-e but canceled the order once I saw the Lincoln Corsair. The Mach-e would have taken a 12 month wait at the time. The Corsair took 2 months to get here. So, my charger is the Chargepoint Home which can be programmed to various amp choices. I set it up for 40 amps. knowing the Corsair was not using that much juice.
 
wilbur said:
Is it possible some people have too big a circuit breaker on their charger circuit which is allowing an internal thermal fuse to blow if there is some kind of current surge or spike? I know some of us are saying they installed 50A circuits (is that based on breaker or wire rating?). I adapted a previously-installed garage 240V outlet with a new receptacle (unknown rating) to fit the charging cable 240V plug and changed the breaker from 50A to 40A. Haven't had any problems in the ensuring 18 months. This website have useful info: 2021 Lincoln Corsair PHEV Level 2 Charging Time | EvoCharge, indicates 32A or 40A charge at the Corsair GT at the same rate.
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This is not a concern. A breaker will not trip for a short voltage spike, so if it is a 30 or 50 amp, it will not make a material difference.
A 50 amp circuit requires the correct breaker, wire and plug. Never just change the breaker to a higher value without knowing the wire is appropriate.
See the link below for wire size versus current. I prefer #6 for 50 amps. Also note that you must not run a continuous load at more than 80% of the rated capacity. So for a 50 amp circuit, the maximum continuous load is 40 amps.
www.cerrowire.com

Cerrowire Resources - Ampacity Charts

Ampacity is the maximum current that a conductor can carry continuously under the conditions of use without exceeding its temperature rating. Cerrowire's ampacity chart helps calculate the load requirement for a circuit.
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wilbur said:
Is it possible some people have too big a circuit breaker on their charger circuit which is allowing an internal thermal fuse to blow if there is some kind of current surge or spike? I know some of us are saying they installed 50A circuits (is that based on breaker or wire rating?). I adapted a previously-installed garage 240V outlet with a new receptacle (unknown rating) to fit the charging cable 240V plug and changed the breaker from 50A to 40A. Haven't had any problems in the ensuring 18 months. This website have useful info: 2021 Lincoln Corsair PHEV Level 2 Charging Time | EvoCharge, indicates 32A or 40A charge at the Corsair GT at the same rate.
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No. The charger only takes 16A...
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Not sure what brand of charger cable they gave us, but our '22 GT (Nov 22 build) has been charging perfectly. I used the 110v plug for a couple of weeks, then switched over to a 220v plug that's attached to a splitter on our dryer circuit (paid for by our local electric company through a rebate) that allows us to charge ... or dry clothes ... but not at the same time!! Takes a little over 3 hours to go from 0-100%. Absolutely no issues at all.

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The only issue I've had so far with charging is if outside temp is over 105-106 degrees, it won't charge at all. Have to wait till it cools down a few degrees and it will then work. No errors in the app and blue lights on both the unit and the vehicle, just won't charge.
 
Just to add some information to this thread, BMW has had issues with these 240V Turbocord adapters for some time. For a while they actually sold the adapter as a standalone part for $.01 in the USA and had a service bulletin about it, but they quit stocking those a while ago. Now the whole cord has to be warrantied out for the adapter. You can buy them from Webasto directly still, but they are a bit pricey compared to the cost of the charger.
https://store.evsolutions.com/turbocord-240v-plug-in-ev-charger-p51.aspx

A common "fix" is to forego the included 5-15R>6-20P adapter(that included thermal fuses, that fail frequently) for an adapter cord such as: https://www.amazon.com/Power-T-Blade-Adapter-Extension-Conditioner/dp/B0B2F4162J/?th=1

Some sources, if you care to question or dig further:
https://www.reddit.com/r/BMWi3/comments/fje7vd
need to find a TurboCord 240 V Plug Adapter

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wp2600 said:
How in the world do you contact Webasco? Toll Free number I have is "not assigned". Same problem with 240 adapter.
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It appears Webasto has exited the charging business. They are probably afraid of a class action lawsuit. Their website has been scrubbed of any mention of the Webasto Turbo Charge or the Webasto Go charger.
 
My charger stopped working on 240 v a few days ago. It will still charge properly at 120 v (without the adapter). After removing the adapter, I found that current was not passing through it on both legs. I disassembled the adapter and determined that one of the thermal fuses is open. I have ordered a new fuse from Newark.com for $3.10 plus shipping. The fuse number is G5A01184C. I believe that replacing the fuse will solve the problem. If it blows again soon, the problem may be in the charging unit itself and will likely be more difficult to diagnose.
 
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