Corsair lead time

[JLB]

It's frustrating seeing people that ordered a month after I did (12/29) get their production date already. I mean, congrats! I'm happy for you guys. It's just frustrating. I just called Lincoln Concierge and they informed me that my order is still being processed. She had no idea when I'll get a production date.

 

[Spear39]

It's frustrating seeing people that ordered a month after I did (12/29) get their production date already. I mean, congrats! I'm happy for you guys. It's just frustrating. I just called Lincoln Concierge and they informed me that my order is still being processed. She had no idea when I'll get a production date.

It also has a lot to do with he configuration that that you have, the fewer options the faster it can be built.

Trust me I know the pain. I am also a Maverick order holder, I pre ordered in AUG, and was watching September October November December January orders being selected, it is very frustrating. One of the main causes is the outdated dealer allocation system, which affects stock and custom orders, it should not apply to retail orders and should be a First in First out.

 

[JLB]

It also has a lot to do with he configuration that that you have, the fewer options the faster it can be built.

Trust me I know the pain. I am also a Maverick order holder, I pre ordered in AUG, and was watching September October November December January orders being selected, it is very frustrating. One of the main causes is the outdated dealer allocation system, which affects stock and custom orders, it should not apply to retail orders and should be a First in First out.

I agree. It should be FIFO. And I didn't order a lot. I got a Reserve model and just added all weather floor liners, spare tire, and tow package.

 

[nmbchemist]

As I posted last month, my production week is also March 28, and I ordered on October 30th. Pardon my ignorance of the production process, but could we be looking at "batching" the production of Corsairs? That would explain the range in order times being given the same production schedule. I ordered a GT with most options.

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[Lada]

I ordered a Reserve on 2/7/22. Was surprised to get a production date of 3/21/22. My priority code was 10.

 

[Tricky Dick]

Picking up at dealer tomorrow 3-10
Ordered 11-23

 

[Voidoid]

Picking up at dealer tomorrow 3-10
Ordered 11-23

My Corsair shipped and since March 5th has been stuck in Buffalo NY due to "conveyance mechanical error" of the train it's on.... The estimated delivery date was today 3/9, but guessing it won't get from Buffalo to CT by close of business....

 

[nmbchemist]

Email last night. Order for GT now shifted another week to April 4

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[Spear39]

Email last night. Order for GT now shifted another week to April 4

Same here.

 

[RedHoncho]

As I posted last month, my production week is also March 28, and I ordered on October 30th. Pardon my ignorance of the production process, but could we be looking at "batching" the production of Corsairs? That would explain the range in order times being given the same production schedule. I ordered a GT with most options.

There is a lot that goes into scheduling a vehicle for production. First of all, Lincoln products represent approximately 10% of the total production at an assembly plant. The highest volume of Lincoln will be the Standard trim level at around 50%. Reserve will make up the next biggest block at 41% and Grand Touring is the smallest block at 9%. Keep in mind that 9% is from the 10% Lincoln production in the assembly plant, or 0.9% of total production volume. The spread among the trim levels comes from Lincoln's own estimates in their dealer order guides.

Then you add in commodity shortages like microchips and most recently black leather that also impacts production. The commodity shortages were getting better until Russia invaded Ukraine. Ukraine provides 90% of neon in the world. Neon is used in the production of microchips.

Vehicles with higher option content like the GT create more complexity in the assembly process so they are spaced out to minimize the impact to production.

I know this isn't what you wanted to hear but it comes from the experience of a guy who has spent 35+ years in automobile assembly plants.

Just be patient and good luck!

 

[daiuyted]

There is a lot that goes into scheduling a vehicle for production. First of all, Lincoln products represent approximately 10% of the total production at an assembly plant. The highest volume of Lincoln will be the Standard trim level at around 50%. Reserve will make up the next biggest block at 41% and Grand Touring is the smallest block at 9%. Keep in mind that 9% is from the 10% Lincoln production in the assembly plant, or 0.9% of total production volume. The spread among the trim levels comes from Lincoln's own estimates in their dealer order guides...

You report that Lincolns are 10% of Ford's production. I take that to mean all Lincolns, across the line. If we're concerned about just Corsairs, then shouldn't the percentages be even smaller?

 

[hopefullnurse07]

Forgive me if I am wrong. I was understanding that when we were notified our vehicle was up for production and given a VIN # all parts were already acquired for the vehicle we ordered?

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[nmbchemist]

Thanks for the production statistics, RedHoncho. Fortunately for the Neon issue, unlike commodities like rare earths it is extracted from the atmosphere, and other production facilities can eventually take over. The question is how long that will take.

 

[RedHoncho]

Forgive me if I am wrong. I was understanding that when we were notified our vehicle was up for production and given a VIN # all parts were already acquired for the vehicle we ordered?

This means the parts to produce your vehicle are scheduled, not necessarily at the plant. Every assembly plant operates with a “just in time” process for many vehicle components. This means the parts are ordered and done so in a sequence. This means the parts arrive at the assembly plant in order of the vehicle build. This keeps the assembly line running. When one component supply is disrupted this disrupts the assembly process.

The plants only have so much latitude in working around a parts disruption before they have to shut down and wait for the supply chain to catch up.

Any build date is contingent upon all vehicle components being available for production. Some vehicles are being built without some components and being held until those components arrive and can be retro-installed. I’d rather for my vehicle to be held until all parts are available and the vehicle can be produced in normal sequence. Data proves vehicles built in sequence have higher quality.

 

[hopefullnurse07]

This means the parts to produce your vehicle are scheduled, not necessarily at the plant. Every assembly plant operates with a “just in time” process for many vehicle components. This means the parts are ordered and done so in a sequence. This means the parts arrive at the assembly plant in order of the vehicle build. This keeps the assembly line running. When one component supply is disrupted this disrupts the assembly process.

The plants only have so much latitude in working around a parts disruption before they have to shut down and wait for the supply chain to catch up.

Any build date is contingent upon all vehicle components being available for production. Some vehicles are being built without some components and being held until those components arrive and can be retro-installed. I’d rather for my vehicle to be held until all parts are available and the vehicle can be produced in normal sequence. Data proves vehicles built in sequence have higher quality.

Thank you for the explanation. I was under the impression that when we received a production date that all parts were aquired and present on site.

 

[kingdre]

Picking up at dealer tomorrow 3-10
Ordered 11-23

Do you remember what your priority code was?

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[RedHoncho]

You report that Lincolns are 10% of Ford's production. I take that to mean all Lincolns, across the line. If we're concerned about just Corsairs, then shouldn't the percentages be even smaller?

Each Ford assembly plant only produces one model of Lincoln. Louisville Assembly produces the Ford Escape and Lincoln Corsair. Kentucky Truck produces Ford Expedition and Lincoln Navigator. It also produces heavy duty F series pickups on a separate line. Chicago Assembly produces the Ford Explorer and Lincoln Aviator. Oakville Assembly plant produces Ford Edge and Lincoln Nautilus.

The percentages are roughly the same for Ford vs. Lincoln production no matter which assembly plant.

 

[RedHoncho]

Thank you for the explanation. I was under the impression that when we received a production date that all parts were aquired and present on site.

Assembly plants don't have the space to store parts for weeks. Walking through an assembly plant you will see vehicles moving down a line with Ford and Lincoln on the same line. The line is constantly moving. People or automation are constantly delivering parts and removing empty parts containers. Trucks arrive with parts in huge containers that are sequenced to the vehicles moving down the line. In other words, when the vehicle reaches any point on the line the part that is specific to that vehicle is there. Think of it as a human ant farm producing vehicles.

 

[hopefullnurse07]

My Corsair build has been bumped another week. So instead of looking at a 3/28 build then a 4/4 build we are at 4/11. I must say that this is getting rather disappointing.

 

[Voidoid]

My Corsair build has been bumped another week. So instead of looking at a 3/28 build then a 4/4 build we are at 4/11. I must say that this is getting rather disappointing.

Don’t let it get you down, it’s the reality of production right now. My 10/8 order was scheduled for 1/31, then 2/7, then the plant idled for two weeks due to chip shortages and it finally rolled off 2/25. Four+ months from order to build is pretty normal these days.