2018 Lincoln Navigator
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2018 Navigator
Very Disappointed on the new Navigator. Lincoln designers screwed up and missed an opportunity to really make this a unique model for Lincoln. Here are my issues with the redesign. First I will say that it is a big improvement over the current design. Obviously the increase in hp and the 10-speed transmission give it a big boost over the previous model. However the new Navigator still looks like a spruced up Expedition. Don't the designers think about this when making their decisions. Don't they realize that the buying public isn't fool anymore by just changing the front and rear end? The Navigator will not be as successful just like the Continental is proving to be. This new redesign is to blocky and truck like, it did not retain its Range Rover Euro look profile like the Concept which gave it a sleeker, sporty, lighter, and more expensive look. I would rather be confused with a Range Rover than an Expedition. They also missed important details such as hidden wipers, front and rear, integrated exhaust, and what's the deal with the single rear light bar? Why didn't they keep the same light bar when lighted? This looks unfinished and out of place for such a large vehicle. They also screwed up front and should have incorporated the LED headlight design of the Continental. BIG MISTAKE HERE. The Wheels are atrocious and I haven't seen any thing better on the Lincoln website. I like the inside overall but hate the stationary big screen. I have also hated this on luxury type of vehicles because they look tacked on and not integrated with the design, like an afterthought. If they would have made it a pop-up then I would have been happy. Bad move. Like I said while an improvement over the current model not revolutionary and another missed opportunity by Lincoln. Decisions like what Corporate made here is that their interest may not be the American Market but are more concentrated on overseas markets. In my opinion the best looking vehicle in Lincoln's line is the MKX. It completely looks different than the Edge even though they are on the same platform and is the only vehicle that retained its Concept look. This proves that Lincoln can do it but for some reason they neglect to do so. One day when they are out of business and unfortunately that will be sooner than later those designers and corporate executives will ask themselves these questions and realize that you can't keep fooling the buying customer with just horsepower and fancy power trains. You have to catch their interest and eyes before so that they can spend the time to go check it the vehicle at the dealer. I thought Lincoln marketing was focused on "time" as the biggest luxury of all. I guess with them it was just a sales slogan and they really didn't mean it. Unfortunate.
...and here are a few good pictures...
Very Disappointed on the new Navigator. Lincoln designers screwed up and missed an opportunity to really make this a unique model for Lincoln. Here are my issues with the redesign. First I will say that it is a big improvement over the current design. Obviously the increase in hp and the 10-speed transmission give it a big boost over the previous model. However the new Navigator still looks like a spruced up Expedition. Don't the designers think about this when making their decisions. Don't they realize that the buying public isn't fool anymore by just changing the front and rear end? The Navigator will not be as successful just like the Continental is proving to be. This new redesign is to blocky and truck like, it did not retain its Range Rover Euro look profile like the Concept which gave it a sleeker, sporty, lighter, and more expensive look. I would rather be confused with a Range Rover than an Expedition. They also missed important details such as hidden wipers, front and rear, integrated exhaust, and what's the deal with the single rear light bar? Why didn't they keep the same light bar when lighted? This looks unfinished and out of place for such a large vehicle. They also screwed up front and should have incorporated the LED headlight design of the Continental. BIG MISTAKE HERE. The Wheels are atrocious and I haven't seen any thing better on the Lincoln website. I like the inside overall but hate the stationary big screen. I have also hated this on luxury type of vehicles because they look tacked on and not integrated with the design, like an afterthought. If they would have made it a pop-up then I would have been happy. Bad move. Like I said while an improvement over the current model not revolutionary and another missed opportunity by Lincoln. Decisions like what Corporate made here is that their interest may not be the American Market but are more concentrated on overseas markets. In my opinion the best looking vehicle in Lincoln's line is the MKX. It completely looks different than the Edge even though they are on the same platform and is the only vehicle that retained its Concept look. This proves that Lincoln can do it but for some reason they neglect to do so. One day when they are out of business and unfortunately that will be sooner than later those designers and corporate executives will ask themselves these questions and realize that you can't keep fooling the buying customer with just horsepower and fancy power trains. You have to catch their interest and eyes before so that they can spend the time to go check it the vehicle at the dealer. I thought Lincoln marketing was focused on "time" as the biggest luxury of all. I guess with them it was just a sales slogan and they really didn't mean it. Unfortunate.
SGilbert
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Oh, they CAN change the looks---MKT vs the Flex. I hate the looks of the Flex, but love my MKT.
Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. The MKT was a flop, sad to say.
I agree with you, though, the Navigator deserved better treatment. Whomever is designing Lincoln's wheels now ought to be fired!!!
Unfortunately, that doesn't always work. The MKT was a flop, sad to say.
I agree with you, though, the Navigator deserved better treatment. Whomever is designing Lincoln's wheels now ought to be fired!!!
The MKT Concept was beautiful, but I personally did not like the production for one thing, it did not retain the width of the Concept. If it had it would have been a much better seller. The narrow width made the split grille look awkward, of course that is my opinion. I feel the same thing about the new Continental. The width of the Concept gave it a presence and expensive look. It was a gorgeous vehicle. I understand that they may have widened the fusion platform as much as they could on the production car but it took a lot away from its road presence. I believe that is the reason the new Continental is not selling that well.
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I like everything about the 2018 Navigator EXCEPT the wheels. (admittedly I also long for a V8 option we will never likely be offered) I definitely plan to look at one REAL close when they hit the streets and will likely buy. I'm glad it doesn't look like a Range Rover...I'm tired of FOMOCO ripping off AstonMartin & Rover aesthetics and they need to quit milking that and move on. They need to get their own "thing". The Navigator defines its own look...and I think it's superb. YMMV.
IMO the reason the Continental isn't selling well is because of the recall and recent hold on vehicles at the dealerships....as I understand it, they are outselling the Cadillac CT6 so far.
IMO the reason the Continental isn't selling well is because of the recall and recent hold on vehicles at the dealerships....as I understand it, they are outselling the Cadillac CT6 so far.
I see a lot of complaints about the wheels. I'm sure they'll have various options. And very worst case scenario, you could always buy aftermarket wheels. I love the design as well and I'm glad it doesn't look like anything else. I think the Cadillac Escalade is going to have some real problems with this SUV.
As for the Continental - I think it's the best full-sizer on the market for the money. It beats up on the Genesis G90 pretty easily. And I'm not surprised to hear it's outselling the Cadillac CT6 - which is actually a very impressive car... I wonder how sales will look for both vehicles after a solid year being on sale...
mark95man
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WHAT? So let's say I purchase a 2018 Navigator 4X4 for $80,000 + tax + working out the Dealership added fees (this 2018 is rare you know) and don't like the wheels--WHY would I purchase it? Let's go over the idea of buying aftermarket wheels and the added cost. Say I find a set of wheels I like for $3,500 + shipping + labor to R/R & programing the TPMS + balancing the tires + installation + tax, I'd be hitting over $4,000 after checking eBay (example)for prices. Then I could sell my factory wheels which is a P.I.A. Or should I agree to the Dealership changing the wheels at a very high cost and getting rid of the factory wheels? Lincoln should listen and have other wheels available.
The bottom line, if the wheels are not pleasing, I'd walk away & keep my 2014.
Yes, keep your 2014,because your 2014 from the outside will look like the 2018 except with a different front end and rear end. The 2018 is not unique like others have stated, except the front grille and taillights. Lincoln cut the budget here and couldn't even use the "unique" exteriors mirrors they used on the Concept model on the production model. I also hoped that they would have placed the outside door handles on the chrome strip at the belt line just like in the Continental. This would have given it a clean side just like the concept and make the vehicle really "unique" Instead they used the same mirrors and outside door handles as on the Expedition. From the side it look like an Expedition except that Lincoln blacked out the "C" pillar which does look nice. Lincoln still kept the "awkward" looking single exhaust pipe that is angled down just like in your 2014 model. The rear wiper is the same as on the Expedition. They should have developed a different design "unique" to Lincoln that would hide the rear wiper, like the Escalade. Lincoln missed not spending enough to make the vehicle truly a Lincoln, so what if it rides on the same platform as the Expedition. But again they shortchanged an opportunity to really make this redesign a home run. Keep your 2014 and save some money. Maybe one day Lincoln will spend enough on the smaller details to truly merit it place in the high-end SUV market.
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Umm, from day one, the Navigator has ALWAYS been a spruced up Expedition! That's what makes it a Navigator! From what you are saying, you want Lincoln to make a custom, one-off platform & design that doesn't borrow from anything else in Ford's inventory. I'm sure they can do that, but it will only result in a sticker price that far surpasses the current price...resulting in paltry sales, that will surely end up with the Navigator model discontinued the following year.
I agree that the stationary display screen seems a bit out of place, but for the most part, I really like the overall look of the Navigator. Even the turbine wheels don't bug me too much. BTW, it looks like there's at least one optional wheel design in the works, according to their website... http://www.lincoln.com/luxury-suvs/navigator/2018/
Its kind of crazy that people want lincoln to make their vehicles completely different from their ford counterparts when lincoln sales as a whole are far below what is needed to make one off vehicles. Even cadillac had to nearly dbl their sales and even still they dnt make one offs, they are just able tune their vehicles better
mark95man
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For the 2018 Navigator, I thought it was going to be 700 pounds lighter like the F-150. That made me feel the V-6 would be enough to power it. Now getting near to the introduction of the 2018s, I read it will be only 200 pounds lighter. I wonder if the all aluminum body panels are making it into actual production? Been checking 2017 prices on the Lincoln & Cadillac SUV and they are hitting above $80K knowing the 2018s will cost more. That would place a 4 year old 2018 into the $40K range--too much for your average used buyer. These are just my thoughts as I consider my plans for a 2018.
Yes, we need to keep in mind that there are a lot more luxuries in the Navigator as opposed to the F150. It's always going to be a significantly heavier vehicle... I wonder what it weighs compared to the Cadillac Escalade. I believe the Escalade weighs 5,785 lbs at it's heaviest. I'm not sure...
mark95man
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What I remember is FoMoCo clearly stated the Navigator would be 700 pounds lighter. For those of us that locked onto that number, maybe it would have been better to say it would lose weight--but not listing a number at that point. My concern is the V-6 engine with higher RPMs. My memory holds on to the past introduction of super/turbo chargers with their coking issue failures. The Escalade has 450 HP but twin turbos and both use high test fuel. I can see hitting $90,000+ for a 2018 Navigator or Escalade. I wonder if GM ever resolved the Escalade's electronic issues? We shall see what happens in the next few months.
Turbos are much, much more reliable these days. They've gone mainstream. As for stating 700 pounds lighter - I see what you mean. That was apparently a bad idea...
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Ah! I love the wheels, and I have to look at wheels all day. The turbine design is awesome. It makes the design pop and looks great in motion:
- https://blog.carsforsale.com/2018-lincoln-navigator-fast-facts/
- https://blog.carsforsale.com/2018-lincoln-navigator-fast-facts/
Welcome! I'm glad somebody likes the wheels.
They're not bad. They probably look better moving than stationary...I've been test-driving large luxury SUVs because I'm in need of something bigger for our family. The frontend redesign of the 2018 Navigator looks amazing! The interior is superb! Great job, Lincoln! You've set a new standard in the industry for sure!
When you get to the back, however, it's as if they ran out of juice! ("Sorry baby, that's all I've got.") The big bar light across the back of the vehicle is awful. The rim options are also terrible, but something I could pay to get past. With that said, there is not much you can do to hide/minimize/or get rid of the ugliness of the bar light. It was terrible on previous year models as well as now. Lincoln needs a new signature backend. Maybe lights that slightly turn up rather than down and gives a more sporty appeal, but definitely something that doesn't span the entirety of the back end, and without a silver bar or anything else connecting the lights. The GMC Yukon Denali and Chevrolet Tahoe have done a great job with keeping a basic 2-light backend design. It's nothing special but it's not ugly. It's simple and classy. I really feel that with a few tweaks, the Navigator could be the vehicle for this 35-year-old mom of two who needs more space for bat bags and sleepovers, but still has a need for speed and cool curb appeal to release her inner badassery lol ;-). The backend, however, is holding me back and I can't justify spending $90-100k on a vehicle that I feel looks truly awful from a major angle/side.
When you get to the back, however, it's as if they ran out of juice! ("Sorry baby, that's all I've got.") The big bar light across the back of the vehicle is awful. The rim options are also terrible, but something I could pay to get past. With that said, there is not much you can do to hide/minimize/or get rid of the ugliness of the bar light. It was terrible on previous year models as well as now. Lincoln needs a new signature backend. Maybe lights that slightly turn up rather than down and gives a more sporty appeal, but definitely something that doesn't span the entirety of the back end, and without a silver bar or anything else connecting the lights. The GMC Yukon Denali and Chevrolet Tahoe have done a great job with keeping a basic 2-light backend design. It's nothing special but it's not ugly. It's simple and classy. I really feel that with a few tweaks, the Navigator could be the vehicle for this 35-year-old mom of two who needs more space for bat bags and sleepovers, but still has a need for speed and cool curb appeal to release her inner badassery lol ;-). The backend, however, is holding me back and I can't justify spending $90-100k on a vehicle that I feel looks truly awful from a major angle/side.
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