Best all season tires for Aviator with 22" rims

[dskogs]

Recently purchased a used Aviator Reserve with the 22" rims with 23k miles on it. Love the car in general, was able to resolve the hood flex issue with help from the forum here, working on the body panel issue, my front door panel is 1" inset from the back door panel behind it...anyway, the reason for this post, has anyone had issues with handling, namely tracking, in snow of say 2" to 3"? This car is all over the place at 40mph to 50mph with very little snow on the ground, fish tailing and floating into snow ruts like crazy.

Is it the 22" wheels with the 40 profile that's causing this issue? Do folks with the 19" and 20" wheels have the same issues? The car has Goodyear tires that are in decent shape, thinking of upgrading to a Continental Pro Contact tire for all season use. Anyone else have any experience with this? Would love to put 20" wheels with 55 ratio on this but I have no space for extra wheels. Any helpful tire suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

 

[peterk9]

I'm guessing that you don't have winter tires on it. Those could help somewhat but have you had the alignment checked? One member had a similar issue and having an alignment done seemed to mostly correct the problem. I think that is where I would start. I have a 2020 Aviator with winter tires and have not experienced any issues with winter driving. Mine has the 20" wheels and I dread having to go with larger ones. That is one of the main reasons I ordered a 2023 Reserve with 20" wheels. Having 22" limits tire choices and they are more expensive as well. Actually my choice would be 18" if they were an option.
I have had the Bridgestone Blizzak DM-V1 and V2 on my last 2 vehicles. As for so called 4 seasons, I've never worn out the OEM tires on my leases. I did buy Yokohama Parada Spec-X tires for my 2011 Explorer.

Peter

 

[dskogs]

Thanks Peter, I have not had the alignment checked although on dry pavement it seems very balanced in normal conditions but I'll have it checked anyway when I bring it in for warranty service here soon. I do think the 20" wheels are the better choice for comfort and ride quality, at least this unit has the dynamic air suspension, the ride on drive pavement is very smooth even with the 22" wheels. But in snow...yikes not good. Thanks for the feedback!

Dan

 

[bbf2530]

Thanks Peter, I have not had the alignment checked although on dry pavement it seems very balanced in normal conditions but I'll have it checked anyway when I bring it in for warranty service here soon. I do think the 20" wheels are the better choice for comfort and ride quality, at least this unit has the dynamic air suspension, the ride on drive pavement is very smooth even with the 22" wheels. But in snow...yikes not good. Thanks for the feedback!

Dan

Recently purchased a used Aviator Reserve with the 22" rims with 23k miles on it. Love the car in general, was able to resolve the hood flex issue with help from the forum here, working on the body panel issue, my front door panel is 1" inset from the back door panel behind it...anyway, the reason for this post, has anyone had issues with handling, namely tracking, in snow of say 2" to 3"? This car is all over the place at 40mph to 50mph with very little snow on the ground, fish tailing and floating into snow ruts like crazy.

Is it the 22" wheels with the 40 profile that's causing this issue? Do folks with the 19" and 20" wheels have the same issues? The car has Goodyear tires that are in decent shape, thinking of upgrading to a Continental Pro Contact tire for all season use. Anyone else have any experience with this? Would love to put 20" wheels with 55 ratio on this but I have no space for extra wheels. Any helpful tire suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks in advance!

Hi dskogs and welcome to the Lincoln Forums. In addition to the good information provided by Peter: How many miles are on the old tires and how evenly is the tread worn? Once tires are down to about half tread (~5/32"-6/32" of tread depth), they are approaching the end of usable snow driving.

It may simply be time to replace them in general for on-snow use, as opposed to the quality of the tire itself.

Also...Yes, apples to apples, the wider the tire, the poorer the snow grip. A wider tire can/will begin to act almost like a snow shoe (a loose but apt analogy) and begin to float (EDIT- Figuratively speaking...lol) on snow, as opposed to sinking in and allowing the tread to bite in. And of course, the more worn the tread, the larger the problem. A narrower tire will sink in and bite better...again, apples to apples.

If you live in a heavy snow region and are truly worried, there are options, as Peter mentioned. Snow tires are the best option. And you can save money by buying a set of winter wheels and snow tires in a smaller diameter, i.e. 18" or 19". Or an all-season tire that has better snow ratings.

I would recommend going to The Tire rack website and using their Tire Decision Guide to find a tire that better fits your needs. Or even to get an idea on the costs of a better suited set of winter wheels and tires.

https://www.tirerack.com/content/tirerack/desktop/en/homepage.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8b2um6Cd_QIViYfICh2FhAcsEAAYASAAEgK_p_D_BwE&ef_id=EAIaIQobChMI8b2um6Cd_QIViYfICh2FhAcsEAAYASAAEgK_p_D_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!3756!3!347550706734!e!!g!!tire%20rack%27&gclsrc=aw.ds

Let us know how you make out and good luck.

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[dskogs]

BBF, how very thoughtful of you to send the Tire Rack link, great minds must think alike because i was there just a little while ago comparing tires, yea low and behold the current tires are not well rated, even when new, for snow. So maybe it's time to put new shoes on this pony. Thanks again for the considerate reply, very appreciated!

Dan

 

[peterk9]

BBF, how very thoughtful of you to send the Tire Rack link, great minds must think alike because i was there just a little while ago comparing tires, yea low and behold the current tires are not well rated, even when new, for snow. So maybe it's time to put new shoes on this pony. Thanks again for the considerate reply, very appreciated!

Dan

Hi Dan. I just reread the thread title and I'm not sure if you are aware that there is a difference between an all-season and an all-weather tire.
All-weather tires are fairly new and designed for both winter and summer use, unlike an all-season. The Continental Pro Contact is an all-season tire, not an all-weather tire. On the all-weather tire, you will see a symbol of a 3-peaked mountain/snowflake (“Alpine”) logo similar to a dedicated winter tire.
Do you want the title changed to all-season?

Peter

 

[GTFB23]

Are you RWD or AWD? I think that plays a bit of a role in winter driving too.

 

[dskogs]

It's AWD with dynamic suspension...

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[peterk9]

It's AWD with dynamic suspension...

Hi Dan, as per post #6, do you want to have the title changed to All-Season?

Peter

 

[dskogs]

Hi Dan, as per post #6, do you want to have the title changed to All-Season?

Peter

Hi Peter, not 100% sure I understand your question. Sorry to sound ignorant but what is the "title" now? And how would that impact response? Just curious and seeking to learn.

Dan

 

[peterk9]

Hi Peter, not 100% sure I understand your question. Sorry to sound ignorant but what is the "title" now? And how would that impact response? Just curious and seeking to learn.

Dan

All-weather and all-season are different types of tires as I mentioned in my post #6. I believe that what you are looking for are all-season tires not all-weather.

Peter

 

[HiTechRedneck]

I'm a bit late to the show here but my 20 AWD has Nitto 420V tires in the correct 22" size (275) and handling in wet and dry is awesome. Can't really tell you about snow but there are a lot of reviews on line if you Google Nitto 420V.

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[DomDoobie]

If they make them in your size continental extreme contact DWS (dry wet snow) I put them on every one of my cars. Simply the best. They even get the highest traction on ice rating but nothing really works on ice but studs which are illegal now in most states. Just my opinions. Everyone has their favorites. Just had my brother put them on his Acura SUV and he’s happy he got them. Also I find Mavis can give you the best deal and will even give you money off the alignment if you buy the tires from them and they give lifetime tire rotation also. Good deal.

 

[dskogs]

If they make them in your size continental extreme contact DWS (dry wet snow) I put them on every one of my cars. Simply the best. They even get the highest traction on ice rating but nothing really works on ice but studs which are illegal now in most states. Just my opinions. Everyone has their favorites. Just had my brother put them on his Acura SUV and he’s happy he got them. Also I find Mavis can give you the best deal and will even give you money off the alignment if you buy the tires from them and they give lifetime tire rotation also. Good deal.

Thanks! They do make the Extreme Contact 06 plus in the size I need for the 22". I've put the Continentals on all my cars since 06, great to hear they work well on your Aviator. Thanks! Dan

 

[DomDoobie]

Thanks! They do make the Extreme Contact 06 plus in the size I need for the 22". I've put the Continentals on all my cars since 06, great to hear they work well on your Aviator. Thanks! Dan

They will handle well and also quiet the car down also. Great in rain and snow also. I won’t use anything else. Make sure it’s DWS 06 plus. Others will post here with their experiences. This is my experience and preference.

 

[peterk9]

Thanks! They do make the Extreme Contact 06 plus in the size I need for the 22". I've put the Continentals on all my cars since 06, great to hear they work well on your Aviator. Thanks! Dan

Dan, that is an all-season tire, not an all-weather tire as you mentioned in the title. There is a difference as mentioned in post #6. I think you are really for all-season tires which IMO are only 3 season tires since they are not structurally designed for cold weather.

Peter

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[JeepAddict]

I needed to relace the rubber on my 2020 Reserve 2 AWD. The stock GY Eagles were good, but noisy. They lost their winter performance around 25K. I rode them until 35K and the road noise was a constant irritation. I bought a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus 275/40ZR22/XL 108W and I really like them. Quieter, good winter weather performance. They don't perform as well as the stock Eagles in corners, and they have a softer ride... the softer ride is actually nice. Got a deal at Sam's club.

 

[dskogs]

I needed to relace the rubber on my 2020 Reserve 2 AWD. The stock GY Eagles were good, but noisy. They lost their winter performance around 25K. I rode them until 35K and the road noise was a constant irritation. I bought a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06 Plus 275/40ZR22/XL 108W and I really like them. Quieter, good winter weather performance. They don't perform as well as the stock Eagles in corners, and they have a softer ride... the softer ride is actually nice. Got a deal at Sam's club.

Have you had them in any kind of snow situations yet? Just curious. Thanks for sharing!

 

[JeepAddict]

Have you had them in any kind of snow situations yet? Just curious. Thanks for sharing!

Yes, typical snow covered roads, slush, nothing deep though. They're sure footed on snow, and good in rain too.

 

[DomDoobie]

Yes, typical snow covered roads, slush, nothing deep though. They're sure footed on snow, and good in rain too.

A jeep addict ? Look at my post in the Lincoln lounge lol.