Ray Hong "Quick Effect Coating Agent"

[gfdublin]

Having seen a few commercials about spray and wipe coatings and how remarkable they seem to be...

On a lark I bought three bottles of Ray Hong's spray on coating. First, I had no idea I was buying from somewhere near Spain. It took 10 days or so for it to arrive although I did get progress reports, which is how it became apparent the provider was in Europe. After reading the instructions, I checked on reviews, (very bad habit of mine, reading reviews after the purchase), I have seen a number of very poor reviews. Nothing about damage to paint or discoloration, but mostly along the lines of small bottles (4 fl oz's each; I got three bottles), ineffective or no enhancement to shine, and lack of durability.

I note the bottle is labeled under ingredients, "Aqua and Tetrafluoroethylene".

I thought of it as a detailer item, like a spray and wipe, touch up, between car washes. Similar to Meguire's Quik Detailer spray.

Has anyone else tried the Ray Hong product and were you satisfied?

 

[Steve_C]

Not sure why reports would say lack of durability. TFE is close in composition to Teflon, with similar characteristics. One of them is good resistance to breakdown from water. I would think that is a good trait.
I am an old fashioned carnauba wax guy myself, so I cannot say what is good these days!

 

[bbf2530]

Having seen a few commercials about spray and wipe coatings and how remarkable they seem to be...

On a lark I bought three bottles of Ray Hong's spray on coating. First, I had no idea I was buying from somewhere near Spain. It took 10 days or so for it to arrive although I did get progress reports, which is how it became apparent the provider was in Europe. After reading the instructions, I checked on reviews, (very bad habit of mine, reading reviews after the purchase), I have seen a number of very poor reviews. Nothing about damage to paint or discoloration, but mostly along the lines of small bottles (4 fl oz's each; I got three bottles), ineffective or no enhancement to shine, and lack of durability.

I note the bottle is labeled under ingredients, "Aqua and Tetrafluoroethylene".

I thought of it as a detailer item, like a spray and wipe, touch up, between car washes. Similar to Meguire's Quik Detailer spray.

Has anyone else tried the Ray Hong product and were you satisfied?

Hi gfdublin. My opinion would be that it is fine as a touch-up, in between car washes, as you stated. Nothing more than that. However, if it costs more than similar wax sprays or touch-up products by Meguiar's, Mother's and other top brands, don't buy it again.

Some additional information which may or may not be helpful: Teflon paint protectant coatings were big some years back. Then it was “polymer” coatings. Now it is “ceramic” coatings. Like most sprays, whether they be wax, "polymer", "Teflon", ceramic etc., they will offer some protection, shine, water beading etc. for a limited amount of time.

And that time period will depend on many factors, including whether the vehicle is mainly parked outside or inside, amount of sun exposure, rain exposure, visibility vulnerability to environmental fallout such as dirt, dust, pollen, bird droppings, tree sap etc. etc.

In my younger, more gullible days, I was even convinced by a Dealer to have a Teflon paint protectant applied to my factory ordered 1982 Mustang GT. It was a mistake. Nothing inherently wrong with it, it simply offered no more protection than a wash and wax with a good quality car wax. And it cost appreciably more, needed to be reapplied once a year etc. So I learned my lesson that first time.

My opinion? The reviews you read are probably correct. Like Steve_C above, I prefer the old fashioned, inexpensive, wash and wax it myself approach. It is usually just as effective (or even more), and lasts just as long or even longer. The only real exception is a properly applied ceramic coating. However, professional application is usually the safest way to go with those products, and that can be extremely expensive, as compared to just washing and waxing our vehicles. Once or twice a year will do although some of us will do more (and some less or never...lol). And even ceramic coatings need to be reapplied every 3-4-5 years. Another added expense.

Or for those not physically or otherwise able to do it ourselves, have the vehicle professionally detailed once a year or so. It will be cheaper than what I have heard many people pay for a professionally applied ceramic coating. Even over the long run,

I'm sure others will also jump in to help, so keep us updated and good luck.

 

[gfdublin]

Well, I don't know. Tried some on the front of the car. Can't say with any conviction that this material made a difference. Shine is about the same as it was. I have not tried water on it yet, will advise if I see a difference in beading. As for durability, who knows.

After shaking the bottle, I poured a small amount of the fluid out of the very dark plastic bottle, and it was as clear as water. I noticed that when I sprayed it on, it beaded up, it did not evenly coat the surface, even a little bit in patches, rather it looked like rainwater on the paint. I changed to a soft cloth to apply the produce and gave up on sprayer. Then polished it with a dry soft cloth and the finish looked fine but not noticeably better than before I used the fluid.

I tried a little on my wife's gold Dune Beetle. A car that rarely gets washed. In that case I wiped off the rear deck lid threshold (painted body color) and then applied the product. The panel did sparkle and had a good shine, the color of the paint looked to be more vibrant. However I was comparing that panel to the rest of her car that really looked kind of a dirty dull. So even if I had used tap water on a cloth and done the same thing I would have expected the result to look the same.

So I don't know. If I had a way to do it, I would test the product to see if it's just water and/or what else is in that bottle.

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[angore]

I experimented with Griot's 3-in-1 Ceramic Wax. It was easy to wipe on and off. It did leave the surface slick but cannot speak to durability yet.

 

[gfdublin]

Over the years I found Griots products to be as represented. I used them all the time on my two Porsches. Once I entered the state of "between Porsches" (which at this time of my life will be permanent) I more or less quit waxing or polishing my cars. But with the Lincoln, which I really like, I might give it a try again. I did clay the dark blue Porsche, the results were stunning but that was a lot of work and I'm well past 50 now so I'll pay someone else to do it if I think it's needs to be done.

Or the short version. Thanks Al, I think I will give Griots Ceramic Wax a try.

 

[Steve_C]

Over the years I found Griots products to be as represented. I used them all the time on my two Porsches. Once I entered the state of "between Porsches" (which at this time of my life will be permanent) I more or less quit waxing or polishing my cars. But with the Lincoln, which I really like, I might give it a try again....

Or the short version. Thanks Al, I think I will give Griots Ceramic Wax a try.

Are you saying you gave up on Porsche ownership? If so, curious as to why.....?

 

[Chrisxo]

I applied Groits 3 in 1 on my Nautilus (white platinum) and my 2016 Mercedes E350 (black) in November. The Nautilus is kept in the garage and the E350 outside, im in Minnesota normally a lot of road salt in the winter but we had very little snow this year so they didnt use much. The E350 looked great after application and is still beading water and shines up pretty good after a wash. The Nautilus i didnt notice any difference after application but it is white and was new. i also had the front bumpers and hood covered with film so didnt apply there and cant really tell if the Groits is doing anything. i am planning on doing another application next week and think twice yearly in future. it is very easy to apply -2 coats- and i am happy with how the E350 looks and think it probably adds a little protection from the salt. one bottle did both cars 2 coats.
**Love my Nautilus**

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[gfdublin]

Are you saying you gave up on Porsche ownership? If so, curious as to why.....?

I loved my cars. But two things slowed me down. First, I was an instructor for the club back then and spent a good deal of time on the track, (Mid Ohio). I had been "off Track" twice, (neither time with a student) and there was little if any damage to the car. However, my wife pointed out to me I had already had two spinal surgeries (not related to accidents) and another adventure off the asphalt might just put me in a wheelchair. Further, if that happened, she was going to have to push me around in the chair. I took the message to heart and gave up the track work, (which I dearly loved but not as much as I love my wife). Second, as I was getting older it became more and more difficult to drop into a low car and alternatively, harder to pull myself up and out of a low car. We had purchased a 38' motorcoach and needed a tow vehicle, so I moved into a Jeep (Wrangler 4 door) which was easier for me. I can climb up into a car and I can drop out to the pavement. So that was a good solution for us and me.

If you are interested in the particulars of my off two road adventures (not on the same day) ...

First time off track, I was trying to increase the distance I had in front of another car. I was doing pretty well with stretching it out until I decided to check his position in my mirror. I gazed just a moment too long waiting for him to pop up over the rise behind me. As a result, I missed the "turn in" just a hair, then overshot the "apex" just a bit, and the next thing I knew, I was looking out the windshield at the corner (#13 turn) I had just come through. I slid up the curbing and spun in the grass. Only damage was to the ego.

The second time was in the carrousel. This was just pure stupidness. I was playing around with my footwork trying something new. Nothing wrong with that except the middle of the carrousel was not a good place to "play around" (no pun intended). I lost control just before the apex and spun again, ending up the grass but this time I did some damage to plastic cladding under the car. Fortunately, I went right and not left. Left might have thrown me off course, and possibly into the false grid where there were cars and people. I don't recall what protection there was at that time and area for folks.

 

[gfdublin]

Over the years I found Griots products to be as represented. I used them all the time on my two Porsches. Once I entered the state of "between Porsches" (which at this time of my life will be permanent) I more or less quit waxing or polishing my cars. But with the Lincoln, which I really like, I might give it a try again. I did clay the dark blue Porsche, the results were stunning but that was a lot of work and I'm well past 50 now so I'll pay someone else to do it if I think it's needs to be done.

Or the short version. Thanks Al, I think I will give Griots Ceramic Wax a try.

6-4-25 Water test finally. No difference between treated and untreated paint. Water beads up the same and runs off the same.

 

[Steve_C]

I loved my cars. But two things slowed me down....If you are interested in the particulars of my off two road adventures (not on the same day) ...

Wow!
Thanks for sharing that!
Curious as to why you gave up on the Porsches, I was not expecting the reply you posted.
Your post is a very timely and poignant story for me, as I am contemplating getting my 1984 Harley-Davidson back on the road again.
I bought it new back in the day...I was 28 at the time. I rode it and enjoyed it pretty much non-stop up until the early 2000's.
The most memorable ride it participated in was not with me in the saddle. I loaned it to a police officer for him to use in participating in the first 911 Memorial Day Run to the WTC site (the bike is an FLHX Electra Glide, built alongside the last of the 4 speed Shovelhead FLH Police Specials).

In contemplating riding it again, I am wondering if I should even consider it do to my age! I have viewed a few topics on You-Tube concerning this shortly before you posted.

When to "hang up" a passion enjoyed for many years is a tough call, one you made for very valid reasons!
Thanks again for sharing!

 

[G-188606]

Having seen a few commercials about spray and wipe coatings and how remarkable they seem to be...

On a lark I bought three bottles of Ray Hong's spray on coating. First, I had no idea I was buying from somewhere near Spain. It took 10 days or so for it to arrive although I did get progress reports, which is how it became apparent the provider was in Europe. After reading the instructions, I checked on reviews, (very bad habit of mine, reading reviews after the purchase), I have seen a number of very poor reviews. Nothing about damage to paint or discoloration, but mostly along the lines of small bottles (4 fl oz's each; I got three bottles), ineffective or no enhancement to shine, and lack of durability.

I note the bottle is labeled under ingredients, "Aqua and Tetrafluoroethylene".

I thought of it as a detailer item, like a spray and wipe, touch up, between car washes. Similar to Meguire's Quik Detailer spray.

Has anyone else tried the Ray Hong product and were you satisfied?

I received mine, and yes small bottle, but I was still hopeful. Well I will say this, and don't waste the money. Does the same as cheap car wax. Think I will stay with my ole trusty usual car wax. This was not worth it. The commercials are just that, to scam money.

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[snapper]

I've used this product quick effective coating agent and the ad is very exaggerating. They claim this stuff will last for 6 months no way!! after 2 weeks I noticed you couldn't see the shine and the water would no longer run off. It's just a basic liquid wax definitely not worth the money. There are reviews out there that claims this is a scam

 

[lincolnandy]

I had 3 cars ceramic coated and am very pleased with the results. The coating holds up very well so far (about 1 year). I then ceramic coated my older 2016 vehicle myself. It was not that hard. I like not having to wax my cars twice per year anymore. The ceramic coating is much easier to wash and clean and contaminants come off much easier. The coating is supposed to last 10 years. I am expecting 4 or 5. I will most likely recoat myself when the time comes.

 

[gfdublin]

Wow!
Thanks for sharing that!
Curious as to why you gave up on the Porsches, I was not expecting the reply you posted.
Your post is a very timely and poignant story for me, as I am contemplating getting my 1984 Harley-Davidson back on the road again.
I bought it new back in the day...I was 28 at the time. I rode it and enjoyed it pretty much non-stop up until the early 2000's.
The most memorable ride it participated in was not with me in the saddle. I loaned it to a police officer for him to use in participating in the first 911 Memorial Day Run to the WTC site (the bike is an FLHX Electra Glide, built alongside the last of the 4 speed Shovelhead FLH Police Specials).

In contemplating riding it again, I am wondering if I should even consider it do to my age! I have viewed a few topics on You-Tube concerning this shortly before you posted.

When to "hang up" a passion enjoyed for many years is a tough call, one you made for very valid reasons!
Thanks again for sharing!

Hey Steve C... I'm wondering, what did you decide to do? Did you resume your road adventures or hang up that monster bike? ;-)

 

[stu-lastcar]

I have been using NuFinish liquid or paste on my cars for at least twenty years. $8.47at Walmart and no. 1 on Consumer Reports. It is very easy to apply and buff, and it looks good and beads water for six months. My wife's Odyssey looked good after twelve years. The only problems I have had is that it is hard to remove from rubber or pebbled plastic (has to be scrubbed off), and although it is still easy to buff when it gets too dry before buffing, it leaves powdery spots on the car that need to be wiped off.

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[Steve_C]

Hey Steve C... I'm wondering, what did you decide to do? Did you resume your road adventures or hang up that monster bike? ;-)

LOL...I really want to get back in the saddle by the spring for sure! I just can't let the old man who wants to get inside of me in as of now!
I spent most of August, and all of Sept. & Oct. under my wife's BMW E90ix. One thing led to another, all turned out well, but took all my wrench time away from my FLH.
Last week while going past the old Harley in the garage, I noticed the right side saddle bag guards developing surface rust on the chrome.
After perusing this thread, I do not believe I will be using "Ray Hong Quick Effect Coating Agent" when I get around to cleaning it up!
(I am sure Red Honcho will appreciate how I dove-tailed my answer and kept it thread related)!

 

[ntotrr]

I experimented with Griot's 3-in-1 Ceramic Wax. It was easy to wipe on and off. It did leave the surface slick but cannot speak to durability yet.

According to this test, it's pretty durable.