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    Quote Originally Posted by Ctrcbob View Post
    If it were not that I am a Ford/Lincoln guy, I may have gone with the G80. One hell of a nice car and better equipped compared to the Continental. Three (or four) engines available. The G90 is much more than I want or need. One thing I don't like about the Genesis is they seem to change their transmissions every couple of years. When they were using the ZF transmission, the transmission fluid cost about $70 a quart. Now they are on two or three transmissions since the ZF.

    Has anyone noticed how many Hyundai Sonatas on the road? Sure, it's a less expensive car, but you can pick up a Sonata Sport 2.0T Limited, loaded LOADED with more features than my Continental Select for less than 35K new. Made in the USA, unlike the Genesis made in Korea.

    Like I said, I'm a Ford/Lincoln guy.
    Genesis does give you a lot for your money. That G90 is a heck of a full-size luxury sedan. The G80 is an excellent mid-sizer. A full loaded Sonata is quite nice as well - and has some pretty impressive luxury features inside. The Kia Optima takes things even a step higher than that! The competition is impressive these days. But the Sonata and Optima don't give you much power. If I'm not mistaken, they're only available with four cylinders...
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    I have the use of a 2015 Sonata Sport 2.0Turbo Limited, with EVERY option. Compared to my Continental 3.7, the 2.0T will run circles around it, even though the 3.7 has more power. (Sure, the 2.7T and 3.0T may be faster, but I have not driven either one). (The MKZ 2.0T may also be faster, don't know). The Sonata is also more agile, as it probably weighs less. Don't know. Also gets 8mpg better around town and 4mpg better on a trip.

    The Continental is sold as a luxury car, and that is why I purchased it. The 305 HP 3.7 is plenty enough for me and my use. I loved the two 98 and one 02 Continental that I previously owned. 4.7 DOHC 275 HP and I loved them.

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    Try adding 1,200 lbs to the Sonata to bring it up to your Continental's weight and try it again. I think you will be considerably less pleased with the Sonata.

    You should have at least tried a Continental with the Reserve trim that includes 24 way seats before buying your basic model. The 2.7 liter is an awesome engine and the trans is excellent too and the fuel economy is great. If you want real performance then the 3 liter and its AWD will give you everything you would ever need and then some. Complaining about your Continental without checking on the other Continental models is unfair to the brand. Not trying out other engines is also unfair to Continental brand.

    The Continental is being sold as "Quiet Luxury" and not as a stiff road burner. I bought my Continental as a quiet luxury car and I am amazed at how well Lincoln executed their vision. I am pleasantly surprised that on trips I can get 7.6 liters per 100 kilometers (31 mpg us). Around town mileage is not clear yet. It has not used any oil in 1,600 kilometers (1,000 miles) during the engine break-in period. It has all the safety features, very large and quiet cabin and a long list of features. For a large size luxury car it has everything I want.

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    I really think all cars are having the same problem. Without incentives the sales are not there. To boost Lincoln sales totals I think they are hoping for the new Aviator to add to the SUV catagory.

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    A new Aviator will sell like hotcakes if they follow the same formula as the old one and have it styled like the current Navigator...
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    The sales manager thinks it will be available for late 2018 or early 2019. He thinks people will like the size and anemities. The size class is the most popular.

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    When asked why I did not go with the 2.7T or the 3.0T AWD, I say that one of the FoMoCo products I had was a 2010 Ford SHO 3.5T AWD. Sure, lots of power, but the power did not impress me. Seldom, if ever used the available power.

    The following are the FoMoCo cars I've owned in the past 20+ years.

    1994 Thunderbird (IRS) (best driver seat I've ever had).
    1997 MKZ (AWD)
    1998 Continental (Tan) (put on well over 100k Miles on this one).
    1998 Continental (Pearl White) (built in cell phone which ATT stopped supporting).
    2002 Continental (Lincoln called color Gold). (100k when sold)
    2003 Mercury Marauder.
    2010 Ford SHO
    2011 MKZ
    2017 Continental Select (present car).

    We've had two other brands, but always returned to FoMoCo. (Wife has a different brand, which she LOVES, and she would rather trade me in, vice trading in HER car). (Perhaps someday will trade her car for an MKZ 2.0Turbo, once Lincoln decides to remove the MKZ name and rename it the "Zephyr" (great Lincoln name) and to remove that Continental "lookalike" grill.

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    What did you like about the Mercury Marauder that you kept it for so long?

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    Took a trip up to Western NY last month with my other car.

    1. In three weeks up there, I saw NONE. Zilch. Nada. Niente.

    2. Before I went up, I had not seen any in my area of Central Florida, other than the one I sometimes see at a restaurant I go to, and come to think of it, I've not seen that one in a loooong time.

    3. Since I returned to Central Florida, I've seen none.

    4, Both in WNY and CFL, I have not seen any TV ads for the Continental. None in at least three or four plus months. I see ads for the MKZ but none for Continentals. I know most of you don't want to hear it, but I think FoMoCo has another Edsel on their hands.

    Wish I had my 2002 (or my two 1998) Continental back. Those were GREAT cars.

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    I have seen one in my small part of town, which is more than I have seen of any of its competitors. It looked every bit as great as mine. I don't understand why there is so much negative talk about the new Continental.

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    I really think the advertising about the Conti is lacking. I have only seen the ad about the seats about 5 times. I think the woman who is seated in the car with a glassy stare is not what I would want if I got the seats!
    There is no attempt to show the features of the car otherwise. My husband thinks they are pushing the seats because they were betting on them for sales and the ad shows a lot of unsold seats!
    When I spoke to a district Lincoln rep, he said there would be ads coming to show the new Conti. Since I was talking to him in October 2016 just before mine arrived I am still waiting for any decent ads.
    I think the car has so many great features that could be highlighted such as the interior look, the outside profile, etc.

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    Around here in South Florida I'm seeing more and more Continentals. Not a lot - but a good amount. It's taking off slowly but I think it'll sell more as time goes on. Right now some people are still only seeing it for the first time...
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    Livery spec models are all over the place. Basically premiere with the rear seat package and leather, minus the sunroof.

    Those are accounted for in the sales number (I believe) so continentals in anything other than black are even more rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town View Post
    I have seen one in my small part of town, which is more than I have seen of any of its competitors. It looked every bit as great as mine. I don't understand why there is so much negative talk about the new Continental.
    The 1998 to 2002 Continentals were far superior to their peers of the day. The 2017 Continental does not even come close to its present day peers. Unfortunately I only learned this after I purchased.

    Like I said, EDSEL.

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