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    Tire Recommendations 20"

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    I had issues with Michelin OE which I believe were MXM. They wore with 9/32" at shoulders and 7/32" center. Never overinflated and Michelin told me, "That happens sometimes." Handling was all over the road. Hesitant to replace with same thing I opted for the Michelin Pilot AS3. Back then they made them in standard load 99V rating (99V was the OE) and extra load 103Y. I didn't catch the mistake until a few thousand miles later. The tires performed well, although I didn't feel they were quite as sticky as the OE and maybe a little noisier and likely harder as they wore down.
    But with them still under warranty one of them got four nails. Dealer replaced it with AS3+. It has been handling very poorly since. I had it back once already and found the tires unevenly aired, which seemed to help a little initially. But as that tire is getting broke in the handling is getting really aggravating. Are there any hard fast rules regarding replacing just one tire in this manner?
    I've also discovered that on some pavements the tire is way noisier than the rest of them.

    Any personal experience with different tires in the 20" will be appreciated.
    Michelin seems to be the most common OE. Were there any Continentals?

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    I run goodyear rsa 2 and reaaly like them

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    Good luck with them. Had them on my special order 2011 Lacrosse and two of them went bad in 12000 miles. Also pray you never have to drive on snow with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by E_Net_Rider View Post
    Good luck with them. Had them on my special order 2011 Lacrosse and two of them went bad in 12000 miles. Also pray you never have to drive on snow with them.
    I bought the car in MN. And drove it one season of winter in ND, got 25,000 miles on them now. The tires act like any other low profile tire in the snow.

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    Road Hugger GT Ultra from Discount Tire. Reasonably priced. I've only had them for about 6000 miles, but I like them. Can't say anything about snow - I live in Florida.

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    Update on tires. After reading reviews on Taurus and MKS I elected to try Pirelli Cinturato AS. Owners claimed they rode quieter and softer than OE tires, some being the Michelin Primacy MXM4.
    My first guess, assuming honesty of posts, is that they were comparing a worn tire that had aged and tires get harder as they age. They also claimed tire was cheaper, but certainly not at my dealer.
    After driving on the Pirelli for about 10 days I discovered the pressure was a couple of pounds low and went to dealer where they installed nitrogen and that machine automatically airs tires evenly. By the time I had three weeks on them I decided those tires had to GO! They were softer riding than the Pilot AS3 in 103Y and quieter. "BUT" very unresponsive! You could do a quick jerk of the steering wheel and return to where it was before they would respond! Also going through high speed curves it felt like that cartoon exaggeration where you are hanging way out over the footprint. So at week three an appointment was made within the 30 day love or leave.
    I am not sure who was at fault, Pirelli or dealer, but it took forever to get resolved.
    And that brought me back to which tire. And after sorting through confusion and conferring with Michelin it turns out the Pilot AS3+ is to be done away with next year. To be replaced with a 4. Apparently they heard the complaints about the 3+ being noisier than the 3. In my size and weight/speed rating that left the Primacy MXM4. And that is what they installed.
    Only about 40 miles of varied driving but this tire, the MXM4 is quite a bit more responsive than the Pirelli. And I'd say softer riding too. As to noise, it has a different tone which seems to be lower frequency. So depending upon your hearing your opinion may vary because my high frequency hearing is poor.

    Now I must say the Pilot were a much more responsive and precise driving tire and wish the AS3 was still available. If I did not know the AS3+ was going away in a few months I would likely swap up to them.
    Note, I very seldom drive on snow although I did one time for a few days with the Pilot AS3 and found it very manageable. It is my understanding that the reason they went to the AS3+ was because of complaints of handling on snow.
    I will write more as time and mileage show effects. Remember my only complaint about the OE MXM4 was they wore in a peculiar way which caused handling issues. But I may have been spoiled after experiencing the Pilot AS3.

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